Who is Jennifer Cowen-Fitzgerald, and Why Doesn’t She Like FFFF?
It looks like the repuglican phalanx has already started to dredge Laguna Lake for candidates to run in November to hopefully reclaim the Fullerton City Council for themselves, and maybe even rewrite the history of the Recall. Well, good luck with that.
It seems that one of their own kind, Jennifer Cowan-Fitzgerald has been making inquiries to important local elected officials about the possibility of a Cowan-Fitzgerald city council campaign. Who is this person? A lot more about that later. In the meantime, enjoy this snapshot of Ms. Cowan-Fitgerald’s front yard – just to show where this woman’s sympathies lay.
No Recall? Now that’s not very good, is it?
Apparently Ms. Cowan-Fitzgerald is not a fan of mine, or of our humble blog. Well, gosh. Was it something we said?
Suffice to say, I will do anything and everything I can to make sure we have no more of these unaccountable, irresponsible, mealy-mouthed RINOs foisted on us by Ed Royce and the dwindling repuglican crowd.
Yep. Bank on it.
Go Hornets!
I have come to expect stupidity from a person with a hyphen in their last name as the odds are very high that they are a bitter Liberal and not very smart. So of course they are going to act stupid.
I love you
Hopefuly we won’t have another run from her friend on Fullerton Fox Foundation,
Leland Wilson.
Yikes. This woman used to work for Ed Royce. Her husband is a lobbyist whose company was hired by the Three Bald Tires. No wonder she had a No Recall sign in her front yard. Of course she realizes from personal experience that Fullerton was for sale a long time ago.
¡No Bueno!
Her hubby is a lobbyist and she is a pick of Ed Royce? Wow, lets see that’s two strikes. Now lets look for the third strike! Hmmmm that lawn sign seems to say it all!
No way do we want this loser! NO Jennifer No way!
City council meeting tonight. I hope someone remembered to change the placards.
This is to be expected. The Ackerman/Bennett crowd must now regroup and formulate a new regime of political puppets in Fullerton.
Yes. I’m sure there will be a slate. I can guarantee you that Leland Wilson will not be on it.
page 5 of this old issue of the Fullerton Observer shows Jennifer Cowan-Fitzgerald and my old buddy, Larry Bennett, were appointed by F. Dick Jones to serve on the same committee to update the cities general plan in 2007.
I noted that Tony Bushala served on the same committee with these two in 2007 as an appointee of Shawn Nelson.
Something tells me that this woman was just as sweet as pie to Tony back in those days…
http://www.fullertonobserver.com/artman/uploads/fomos.pdf
Well, we are going to need a councilmember with a hyphenated name. Isn’t that a local ordinance? I like this one better. Sounds like someone you’d want along on a fox hunt. Release the hounds!
Lady Ashleigh-Monatgue will be there, too.
This woman was in charge of the Chamber of Commerce for a while – and that tells you just about all you need to know.
No like FFFF? What the hell’s the matter with her. Best Blog in OC – 2 years running!!
Google her name; lots of hits, including her business website
http://www.cl7communications.com/index.php?pr=About_Us
I also seem to recall she supported the scampaign of the hideous Ackerwoman in the 72nd Special Election when the latter set up a fake address in Fullerton in some dude’s rumpus room.
Nice. Repuglican all the way.
Ackerwoman supporter? The gloves are off.
Hey, what’s wrong with hyphens?
Warming up in the bullpen – Mike Clesceri!!
Leroy Brown will be his campaign manager
Think he can get time off from being a mall cop?
“…Cowen-Fitzgerald owns and operates CL7 Communications, a strategic communications firm that specializes in political fundraising. In recent years, Jennifer successfully executed fundraising programs for major political candidates including Presidential Candidate Governor Mitt Romney (out-raising all the competition in Orange County) and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger. Additionally, CL7 helped move the California Women’s Leadership Association from an Orange County group to a premier, statewide professional organization of business women committed to affecting positive political change in California”
http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/dennert/archives/2009/02/republicans-get.html
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Jennifer Cowen-Fitzgerald
Executive Director at California Women’s Leadership Association-Fullerton CA
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COWEN-FITZGERALD, JENNIFER – 902.07
HOME / CAMPAIGN FINANCE REPORTS AND DATA / PRESIDENTIAL REPORTS / 2007 JULY QUARTERLY / REPORT FOR C00431171 / DISBURSEMENTS BY PAYEE
DISBURSEMENTS BY PAYEE – ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT INC.
http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2007/Q2/C00431171/B_PAYEE_C00431171.html
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“…Under Cook, Biola also added graduate programs that strengthened its academic profile, including three new schools: the School of Intercultural Studies, the School of Professional Studies and the Crowell School of Business.
During the changes, Cook always listened to dissenting voices, according to Jennifer (Cowen, ’95) Fitzgerald, who served as the student body president from 1994 to 1995. When the administration proposed a policy change that would require students to pay more for taking 18 units, Cowen sat down with Cook and shared the students’ concerns.
“He was really receptive, and they ended up dropping the proposal, which, to us students, meant a lot,” said Cowen, who now owns her own political consulting and fundraising business in Fullerton, Calif. Cook’s warmth and sense of humor also won over students. In 2003, they dedicated their yearbook to him.”
http://clydecook.biola.edu/legacy/changing-mindset/
“Protect Fullerton recall no” from a Biola grad? What do they put in the kool aid over there? Does she have a water filter? Yeah protect the murdering cops, those involved in the subsequent cover up including the complicit media in the name of Jesus right? Freedom loving people that value human life should not be at odds with the phony right but here we are and here we go again. What translation of the Scriptures do they use at Biola? I remember Clyde Cook at an EVFree service some time ago. He was referring the author of the Harry Potter series as an example of faith and courage and determination right on up there with Moses. I also have a 130 year old Naves Topical Bible whose yellowing pages’ printing predates Biola over my fireplace that clearly explains sorcery is a forbidden practice. My point is the blind lead the blind and to where no one knows. That is why we stand in the gap. Who are really the puppets around here anyway?
Oh jeez, here we go again
Fullerton after Ron gets his cut?
The High Sierra town of Mammoth Lakes, Calif., said Monday that it filed for bankruptcy because it cannot afford to pay a $43 million breach-of-contract judgment brought against it by a developer.
In a prepared statement, Mammoth Lakes officials said “bankruptcy, unfortunately, is the only option left” for the town, whose largest creditor, Mammoth Lakes Land Acquisition, had won a state court order requiring full payment by June 30, 2012.
Facing a judgment nearly three times the size of its annual operating budget and a $2.8 million shortfall in its 2011-12 fiscal year, the town had already cut many services and asked employees to take reductions in pay. Compounding problems, the adjacent Mammoth Mountain ski resort was forced to lay off 70 full-time employees last year because of a dearth of snow.
Ron is getting nothing after all the lies about him come out. Ron you should of taken the first offer.
Damn John Doe are you still spewing venom? The recall is over. The trial will take care of your “brothers”! Tuco will be there every day!
Of course he is. Tuco is part of the rabble.
So it’s looking like her and the Roland Chi making up the Ackerman/Royce slate. No thanks guys.
Is the “No Recall” sign or “LOVE” flag the most frightening here?
In my experience, people with “Peace”, “Love” and “Coexist” paraphernalia tend to be the most hardened, extreme and outspoken.
I had her already pegged as a passive-aggressive sort.
No, the most frightening thing here is the campaign of fear and intimidation brought to bear on anyone who dares to run for city council who isn’t handpicked by Bushala.
Fear and intimidation? Hardly. I look at it as a public service that we provide to Fullerton residents to inform voters of candidates true motives and political affiliations that they like to hide from the public when it’s convenient for them to do so.
I think Lex Luthor thought the same way.
Is that a roundabout way of calling me Lucifer? Hardly. Lucifer, or as they call him in the Superman comics, “Lex Luthor”, is a bald narcissist with a huge ego.
Let me think who that reminds me of here in Fullerton?
You don’t think that posting a picture of her residence on this blog populated with such angry and sometimes violence-threatening people doesn’t constitute fear and intimidation? Wouldn’t it have served the same purpose just to post that she had a “No Recall” sign in her front yard? Did Bushala drive around Fullerton and take a picture of every house who had a “No Recall” sign? Reeks of a yellow badge campaign to me.
Please name one act of violence that has occurred over the course of the Kelly Thomas protest or the Fullerton recall?
Oh stop it! Bushala is performing an incredible public service by letting everyone know who all these people really are. If this Fitzgerald woman loves the 3 Old Sofas so much that she displays a sign, then she is putting it out to the world and it is in no way threatening to take a photo of a sign she placed in public.
GROW UP!
The only violence that’s been perpetrated on anybody was the murderous beat down six lazy, thuggish oaf-cops put down on Kelly Thomas.
Talk about irony, McKinely hired the heathens that beat Kelly Thomas to death and you call FFFF angry and violent? That is rich.
I assume she wears the No-Recall sign proudly or it wouldn’t be in front of her house. If she can’t handle the public knowing where she lives, then she better quit now since she has a listed address and phone number.
Good call, CCCB. Fearn and intimidation is exactly what these guys are all about. Tony lets them post any slur or gross comment they want about folks not on the Bushala-approved list. They just don’t have the balls to do it under their real names!
So true.
CCCB, my criteria for supporting candidates are as follows:
1. Has demonstrated a reasoned approach to issues.
2. Has integrity.
3. Does not knowingly misrepresent the facts.
4. Has the interest of the community first and foremost while representing them.
5. Takes the time and effort to learn about items that comes to the council before making a decision.
6. Has an open mind as to solving the problems facing Fullerton.
7. Can prioritize where city government should spend its money especially in these times of limited availability of funds.
8. Believes that limited government is the best government.
9. Must be willing to follow-up on city business questions raised by citizens during city council meetings.
10. Upholds the constitution of the State of California and the United States of America, in that order.
Um, pt 10: I’m pretty sure the supremecy of the federal constitution was landed about 150 years ago. Very curious to hear some more on this one.
This is a great list.
One could also make a list of criteria for NOT supporting candidates. One of these might be:
“Puts the interest of business associates, commercial interests, and/or political cronies before the public interest.”
In fact I would make that a litmus test.
I would also like to respond to the comment above about fear and intimidation. There were a whole lot of candidates who just ran in the recall election who were never disparaged by this blog’s bloggers: Georgieff, Rands, Reid, Birsic, Hakim, Williams, and Paden. They may have been insulted in comments somewhere but that is not under anyone’s control. But even in the comments, the majority of those who ran for city council who were not the “handpicked by Bushala” candidates were at worst ignored. At best, they were endorsed by individuals writing in this blog.
I was never insulted or intimidated for publicly endorsing Jane Rands on this blog despite her running for the same seat as Greg Sebourn. When I met Greg in person he was extremely pleasant and certainly didn’t say anything about it either. The one exception was that Matt Rowe was subjected to a lot of insults but that was anonymously and those of us who know Matt well tried to defend him. Unmoderated blogs with open anonymous comments have these kinds of problems and that can’t be helped.
Certain blog posts and certainly some comments do seem a bit harsh sometimes. There are a couple of people whom I won’t name that I do think are getting slammed hard relative to what it is they have allegedly done that is so objectionable. But that is the price of running for office, working in the public sector, or commenting on a blog. You have to be thick-skinned.
Anyway, nobody is going to show up at Ms. Cowen-Fitzgerald’s house (which is completely unidentifiable to me in the photo anyway) and TP it. She has nothing to fear. But of course anybody running will and should be scrutinized and talked about. That’s democracy though, right?
People aren’t always fair. If you think someone is being treated unfairly here I urge you to defend them based on their own merits rather than assuming that we are an angry mob following orders from a Svengali-like figure pulling strings. This group is much more independently minded than it is given credit for, and I believe can be swayed by evidence and logical argument. Not everybody, but enough. Try it.
“Anyway, nobody is going to show up at Ms. Cowen-Fitzgerald’s house (which is completely unidentifiable to me in the photo anyway) and TP it. She has nothing to fear.”
Right.
Tony and his crew showed up at Harry Sidhu’s house demanding of his wife they wanted to see Harry, asking where their daughter went to school and taking pictures the whole time. They scared the bejeezus out her.
Stop being naive. These guys are notorious stalkers. It’s part of their intimidation M.O.
Will the new council majority try to re-negotiate Tony Bushala’s sweetheart lease for the Santa Fe Depot?
If Tony had any integrity, he would agree to it. The city acquired the depot by eminent domain and then leased it to Bushala. Aren’t conservatives and libertarians against such abuse of eminent domain?
Sure, Bushala will claim he made the city the best offer, etc. etc. But he signed up for some interest free redevelopment loans. Tony’s so-called principles didn’t get in the way of him sticking his snout in the trough!
Now that Tony has made his pile, he can afford to stand up for his principles!
You’re a fake, Bushala. You won’t call out your own friends when they get on the taxpayer gravy train. You filed a complaint against Harry Sidhu for registering to vote at an apartment he allegedly didn’t live in, when you were voting from a residence where you didn’t live — your ex-wife’s house — for three elections in a row (which is against the law, as you know and don’t care)!
You complain about Rusty Kennedy and the Human Relations Commission, but you were too lazy to do anything about him and it when Chris Norby appointed you to the HRC.
You complain about wasting taxpayer money, but you and your brother didn’t mind ripping off OCTA by forcing them to eminent domain that whole parcel by the depot, when they only wanted to buy a portion of it. But it was a nice fat payday for you, courtesy of the taxpayers.
Your pal David Zenger spends his time reading and posting on FFFF while he’s on the clock at Shawn Nelson’s office, and you look the other way.
You complain about the FPD union, but you support union toady Bill Hunt.
You’re even afraid to post under your own name!
Without your checkbook, you’re just a pot-smoking, hypocritical gadfly. You bought a recall election, and then you bought council seats for Kiger and Sebourn. They wouldn’t have had a chance without your IEs, because they can’t campaign or fundraise to save their lives. You know it. They know it. Everyone knows it.
Your money let you take out three old, tired, weak incumbents who barely put up a fight. Jennnifer Cowan-Fitzgerald is a whole different ball game. She’s not afraid of you or your money or your anonymous, lilly-livered, loser friends. If she runs, she’ll win, no matter how much you spend.
Jeez, what a nasty temper.
Oh dear me! A challenge! Bring it on, boy.
Haha!A sweetheart deal? It was a sweetheart deal for the City. You’ve been reading Larry Bennett propaganda again.
Chill, dude. Peace, out.
I thought a little humor from the upcoming movie, “The Campaign” might be in order to help him remedy that nasty temper…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7yC0iiK7a4
Yikes! What a hater. Sounds like Boss Hog has an extremely large axe to grind.
You know what they say, big axe, little.. Aw nevermind.
“She’s not afraid of you or your money or your anonymous, lilly-livered, loser friends.”
Then she’s an even bigger fool than Larry Bennett.
boss hog, interesting
Any response to Boss Hogg admin? I mean a real response, not just name calling or deleting a post you don’t like.
.I wouldn’t dignify that recycled rubbish with a response if it were me.
I learned a long time ago the value of not responding to people who drive by you on the freeway just to flip you off.
Of course there won’t be a response. You’re not allowed to have an original thought on this blog, especially if it goes against what the puppet master or his puppets think.
Here’s the reputed source of those inane questions…
http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2011/hes-baaaaack-matthew-j-cunningham-scores-some-octa-gravy/
Ha! You know, I think you’re right. The Jerb pops up once in a while to remind us why a tool he is. “Hypocritical gadfly” sounds exactly like something the Jerb would say. He won’t use his own name of course because then we would have to do a repeat series on his $200 an hour scam for the First Five Fraud, or his current gig sitting in on council meetings for OCTA – another do-nothing job courtesy of Giveaway Bill Campbell.
GODDAM that is one ugly mustache. That boy has the bright-eyed look of a serial killer of small domestic animals.
GODDAM IT!
Matt is doing what he does best, deflecting attention.
His wifes boss, Supervisor Campbell is quickly being dragged in to this torrid affair with Bustamonte.
In the scheme of things ripping off the county for a few hundred grand is nothing compared to covering up for a rapist and outing victims of child rape for political gain.
Covering up for a rapist and outing victims of child rape? Seriously? Would you please give some more information on this?
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2007/10/jubal_speaks.php
Google is a great tool Texan. As for the rape: Todays newspaper is a good place to start.
More news about Santa Ana City Councilman Carlos Bustamonte…
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-santa-ana-sex-crimes-20120704,0,5755672.story
BB-A bit eager aren’t you?
In my opinion-BH needs daily Metamucil.
Nuff said, if a dreg like BH likes the woman, proof there must be a problem with her.
Suck it, Merijoe. You’re opinion doesn’t count. You don’t even live here.
The trifecta:
Cowan-Fitzgerald, Flory and Keller. What a girt.
By the way, Cowan-Fitzgerald ran the Jones Campaigns when her Husband worked for Townsend Associates a firm under contract to the City for Public Affairs.
Hey Jennifer, Pigs get fed and Hogs get slaughtered.
P.S.- She worked for Ackerman before Royce. Word
around town was that the Royce staff didn’t
care much for her and she was ushered out.
As head of the FPOA I am proud to endorse Jennifer-Cowen-Fitzgerald-Uther-Pendragon III for Duchess of Fullerton. Our association only endorses oval-shaped candidates for public office and Ms. Cowen seems to fit the bill. Also, she has the word “Cow” as part of her name which stimulates my unusually well-developed salivary glands. We hope for a return to normalcy under Ms. Cowen’s reign and are ready to resume our savage beating of indigents when she regains the throne.
Sincerely,
Barry Coffman
Fullerton Portly Oval-shaped Association
Barry-unredacted…you slay me -now I have to go eat something.
Of course no response, just typical BS responses from the puppets. I’m sure a transcript of all the puppet insults and jabs over the past year or so will be good campaign fodder. Shows your true character. Good job puppets, keep it coming.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for a response. Hypocrites typically wither under the spotlight when their fetid deeds are exposed for the world to see. I suppose I’d rather dredge Laguna Lake for candidates than merijoe’s dirty diapers which is FFFF’s first best choice. Hahahahaha!
BB- You hear that? That’s the sound of me not caring what you or your people think.
How extrodinarily non-marionette like of you to use a screen name of Bueller? Bueller?
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but you abuse the privilege.
Hey, dumbshit Merijoe, do you hear that? That’s the sound of you typing a response because it bothers you! Suck it, bitch!
Wow…unoriginal and juvenile. Way to represent. I swear I think you people must secretly be huge fans of FFFF. Nobody could seriously think they are doing a good job of representing the opposition with posts like yours and the like.
Jennifer is a close friend of Pat McKinley – enough said!
Jennifer is listed as a team member on the Meg Whitman campaign as-
Jennifer Cowen‐Fitzgerald – Inland Empire Finance Director
http://www.flashreport.org/blog0a.php?postID=2009020913503749&authID=2005081622025042
Ah…Meg Whitman…the one who used “keeping jobs in CA” as a big part of her campaign platform…while hiring outside of CA.
Another person who apparently has no trouble supporting people like Pat McKinley no matter how badly they trash their own rules (hiring Cicinelli) or trash women (Rincon).
Another potential candidate with no morals, only $ signs.
NO MORE POLITICAL CONSULTANTS AND NO MORE CITY EMPLOYEES OR CITY PENSIONERS!
Alright Jennifer. We will get out city back from these haters and opportunists.
First you’ll have to take your hands out of your pants.
I imagine he’ll stop once he finds something.
But the manner in which you are going about it stifles open discussion and debate. There are many like me, who would prefer to be involved in open discussion and use their own real name, but don’t because we fear what will come to us if we do.
I never supported any of the three recalled candidates or any of your candidates for that matter, but if I voice any sort of dissenting opinion, on this blog I’ll be labeled a brutal corrupt cop, a supporter of police abuse, fraudulent taxes, etc., and I’m not any of these things.
I’m a business and real estate owner in Fullerton with a lot to lose if you set your sights on me, and all it takes is a dissenting opinion. You’ll post pictures of my home, your readers will harass my business, and your candidates can make life very difficult for me. As such, I need to hide in the shadows. While this isn’t a violation of my 1st Amendment rights, it instills fear and represses my will to voice dissenting opinion. Kinda like how the Nazis started out.
So, I ask again, why did you have to post the picture of her house?
Well stated, and this is why many are concerned with the direction of where things are going… when this blog states its mission is to shed light on corruption, yet the majority of articles and comments are agenda driven and witch hunting in character. brown shirts first, then come the black shirts. you’ll never see a negative thing about Nelson or Norby, but god forbid a dem blows his nose in public.
maybe I missed something but isn’t QS a “dem”?
and that’s the point… the blog in reality is simply a mouthpiece for the “new” establishment of Norby, Nelson, Whitaker, and now, Sebourn. Travis is a placeholder for Bushala. There was something Oedipal about the recall… killing off the old guard so as to stand up the new guard.
Even if that was true, and I don’t think it is completely, you’re talking about it like they are just pieces on a chessboard. People who think about elections and campaigns as if they were sporting events always make this mistake. They look at tactics and margins of victory and not at the issues themselves. Actually, we are talking about people and about policy.
Bruce Whitaker is known as a person of integrity even by those who don’t usually agree with him. Travis is an independent thinker and a true libertarian from what I can tell. He is also a pragmatist and ran for office for exactly the right reasons – to create positive change for his community. Trust me, it wasn’t because he was trying to desperately fulfill a life-long dream of being a city councilman. This is a sucky job which pays extremely poorly and must consume a lot of time and energy. If you’re going to use it to get your friends fat contracts that’s one thing, but to do this for the public good is an act of sacrifice. Can you imagine the pressure on these new councilmen as they arrive into office? Not an easy thing,
This wasn’t Oedipal because the old guard weren’t the fathers or mentors of this newer generation of politicians. They didn’t turn on their own. It was a peaceful electoral revolution against a cohort of politicians seen as corrupt, negligent, incompetent, and perhaps worse as tyrannical in allowing police to be deployed to beat up citizens indiscriminately. If the old council was allowed to just continue on after the brutal killing of Kelly Thomas what kind of message would that have sent to the police department, to the community, and to anyone watching in the wider world?
These people stepped forward to try to make positive change in our town. This HAD to be done. It has been done. If you want to influence future city policy this is a good forum to do so. Its just a shame that there’s another election happening so soon which is distracting attention from reforming things and diverting it back to politics. But that can’t be helped.
I think I like you Jt. you do seem like one who wants to see the upside to things. But history has shown that politicians who feed the frenzy tend to not have good intentions. And this Blog falls more in the “feed the frenzy” camp than honest dialogue. Bread and Circuses. Soon they will wrap themselves in the flag of freedom and give us fireworks and free water…. Oh, wait, that is what just happened didn’t it?
This blog employs sensationalism and hyperbole as a means to an end at a time where the information war is being lost and falling out of the clutches of the old guard and their rot gut phony conservative boozing buddies. No change comes without stirring emotion and causing a reaction. It is basic psychology. This thing is owned by Tony Bushala, not ABC,Fox, Clear Channel, Viacom, GE, Disney or the other cattle stalls for the lemming’s minds. This is real journalism with a shot of tequila pal. It is not dry, leaves a nice aftertaste and gets your head spinning just a tad. It is not the sleeping gas that your mom and dad had on in the background for decades with the same talking heads slanting and spinning as the walls close in around us. This is the future of a free media and this model will be duplicated en masse if not already to root out the bastards that have taken us to the edge of the canyon. Guess what? They lose and will continue to lose. Pride came before the fall and always will. The only bread and circus out there currently is the 200+ channels of absolute mindless sports and bullshit useless information with total flicker rate manipulation to put the men in a trance and the women on prozac. FFFF’s content helps to break the conditioning and unlock minds. Pass the word around and here’s to freedom for America and for Fullerton’s future.
Vince Buck who is a friend of mind if not really a friend of this site, wrote in the Observer that this recall simply had to happen. This crossed whatever camp lines exist around here. Everybody knew we the people united had to send a message. Now we have new people in office, more politically libertarian than before. Personally, I like that very much, since I agree with big important chunks of their philosophy. But anyway they are our representatives and we have to let them know our stances on issues. Tony can’t just program them all to do whatever he wants. Nor would he want to. I do believe there will be changes and I think they will be for the better.
Also, a lot of the anger that you see comes from being attacked by cop trolls over and over for months or years. People get more hardened after being mocked, jeered, and occasionally threatened by cops. And the police abuse situation is serious. This wasn’t fun and games, this was a very serious situation and still is.
I’ve seen criticism of both of them actually.
I totally understand why people would be concerned about witch-hunts and the like. If things seem to be going in that direction too much it is better for people to speak out. Sometimes I’m tempted to speak out to defend people I think are getting unduly criticized, but I usually don’t know the history there. I don’t quite know why it is that there is a lot of antipathy towards certain people. Maybe at the right time I’ll ask, and I’m sure I’ll get some answers.
The fact is, people are reactive and they are allowed to be so here. They are going to freak out sometimes and needlessly slam people. It happens. It will probably happen to me if it hasn’t already. You can’t afford to care too much. Part of this is just resentment against what is viewed as abuse of authority. If you are not part of that authority it is unlikely you will be particularly resented.
This is a free speech zone. It isn’t a vigilante group and isn’t going to become one. If there is one common thread I find here among almost all posters it is that people are genuinely pro-freedom and anti-fascist. There will be no brown shirts or black shirts, no day of the rope or Kristalnacht. I can’t speak for the people who run this blog but I think they are fair and if you have specific concerns you should contact them directly and discuss them.
First off, that is quite a moniker you’ve got there for a business and real estate owner.
I understand your fears but I think these people are fairer than you think. If you are reasonable and polite, concede a well-argued point now and then, and know when to drop things I think you could espouse any position you want on here. By all means use a pseudonym, why not? Maybe I just haven’t been here long enough but I don’t see anybody getting their business or personal life harassed. Maybe Slidebar. But that is because of the suspicion of their complicity in a crime. I haven’t seen anybody else whose business would have been negatively affected.
I find it interesting that my question regarding why it was necessary to post a picture of her residence was not addressed. If it wasn’t to intimidate and instill fear, then what was it for? Like I pointed out in my original post, he could have just said she had a sign posted in her yard with no need to post the photo. I’m also curious as to why he had this photo in his records, since it was taken on June 16th. Keeping a list? Such lists are dangerous.
As for my posting name, what bearing does that have on my being a business and property owner? I’ve got a sense of humor, and I liked the name, which I originally created as a result of a response I filed to someone who posted under “Hot Roasting Cop Balls”.
Again, I’d really like an explanation as to why it was necessary to post a picture of her residence. If it wasn’t to intimidate, then why?
I can’t answer your question because I didn’t post it. My assumption was not that it was an attempt to intimidate, but an attempt to illustrate. Posts are better when you have at least a picture or two. Check back through the archives and you’ll see that most do. I don’t know why someone had a picture – maybe someone was looking for anti-recall signs and taking photos of them. I don’t care who took pictures of my Travis and Jane Rands yard signs, so why should she?
My “quite a moniker” comment wasn’t a slam by the way. It really is quite a moniker! A sense of humor is good.
You obviously aren’t very astute. Clearly the reason for showing this person’s front yard was to advertise her support for the Three Tired Triceratops.
Any idiot can see that there is no address listed. What’s wrong with you?
Your question was answered and your “concerns” are fake. Other than the postman no one would have any idea where this home is. The obvious point to be demonstrated is that she felt so supportive of the no recall group that she flew their flag in her yard so all the world passing by would see and take note. Evidently someone took note along with at least on photo.
The moral to the story is if you make a loud public statement someone might listen. They might also remember.
Voice your opinion? Start your own blog, cretin.
English Major, this individual seems seriously afraid that FFFF is some sort of violent, vindictive gang who is going to stalk him. I think we should assure him we are not. Some on this blog have more patience for dissent than others. But is a free speech zone even if certain kinds of ideas dominate.
I am sure, however, that a year ago you were the first to lend your name when you thought that Mike Sellers, Joe Felz, or Pat McKinnley were doing wrong. I am sure that in 1776 you would have been eager to lend your name to the Declaration of Independence from King George.
What is it that you have to lose? Money and prosperity? Honor, integrity, and intellectual honesty?
Just so you know, I have personal experience with Sellers and had a strong negative opinion of him long before the Kelly Thomas incident came along. Don’t think much of his morals, integrity, honesty, and (lack of) leadership. I could go on for hours about him. I’m not friends with any Fullerton officers, but from time to time I’ve had an opportunity to discuss Sellers with some of them, both while he was chief and after Kelly Thomas. Most Fullerton officers had/have the same view I did.
Don’t be so quick to make assumptions about all police officers.
It’s sad that those officers you mention didn’t feel they could speak out more publicly about their views without (perhaps) losing their job/getting demoted…
In response to BossHog: The recall and all of the replacements would never had happened if any of the officers, chiefs, councilmen, etc., would have shown one ounce of compassion or desire for accountability for the beating death of Kelly Thomas. I don’t agree with most of the bloggers’ conservative views, don’t know whether Bushala had ulterior motives in supporting the investigation of Thomas’ murder, and don’t agree with some of the personal attacks the bloggers shower on their opponents (didn’t half these guys praise Quirk 9 months ago for calling for an investigation of Thomas’ murder?) But I know Bushala helped expose a heinous murder and played an integral role in making sure those responsible for it are held accountable. That is enough to trump all of the other stuff.
AWww, are you done? Yeah, yeah, we have heard all the made up lies. Poor Kelly. He was such a great guy. So respectful to the cops. No Kelly we don’t like your balls. I am sure he didn’t mean to say that. He is so misunderstood.
Cops don’t deserve any more respect than anybody else and sorry but they don’t get to kill people because they feel disrespected. Please re-read this. http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2011/r-e-s-p-e-c-t/
John Doe is a good example of an FPD troll. Nuff said!
Tuco is a good example of Kelly’s rabble. Nuff said.
Cops have to earn respect, just like the rest of us. Sorry, but graduating high-school and having the 12th most dangerous job doesn’t automatically qualify them. If they don’t show it, they don’t get it. If they demand it in an abusive manner, they get sued, fired, and incarcerated, like the FPD and your bed-buddies.
She’s too ugly to win an election!
Jennifer Fiztgeral is what happens when Dick Ackerman, Sarah Palin and the God Hates Fags bigots have sex and produce a baby.
btw – thanks for posting about her. She is going to win this thing if we do not bring attention to what she is. A Rhino Hack!