“Heroes” On Union Street
We received an e-mail a while back from a concerned Friend with a story to tell. In the interest of public information and dialogue we reprint it, below. Take it for what you think it’s worth. Comments on this event are more than welcome:
Sunday night, August 1st 2009, a motor crash involving two trucks occurred on West Union Street. The drivers of these vehicles were apparently racing while under the influence of alcohol. This seems to be less surprising in Fullerton these days, which is not a good thing for those who care about the direction of this city. If you are familiar with this street then you know that most residents park on both sides of the street, and there is no room for reckless driving.
The damage: One flipped truck, one totaled parked car, and consequentially, local residents that are now more concerned than the day before. It was reported that one of the drivers is actually an employee of the bar/restaurant Heroes, located in Downtown Fullerton. Although DUIs are not surprising in this city, the fact that this particular case involves an employee of a popular restaurant, turned popular bar by night, does. On a personal level, I despise Heroes for hiring bar tenders that treat customers with less or the same respect as manure, but that’s a whole other story.
Shouldn’t Heroes be teaching their very own employees about the dangers of drunk driving? Shouldn’t they be emphasizing, “drinking responsibly” not only to the public, but to their very own, as well? I’m not letting drunk drivers in Fullerton, or anywhere for that matter, get off easily, and Heroes shouldn’t either. It’s apparent to me that this establishment needs to have a group meeting about role modeling, employee representation, and accountability… and soon.
Can anybody elaborate on this crash? Union Street is made up of pretty short segments. It’s hard to believe anybody could get going fast enough to flip.
That was right off of S. Harbor. Not sure why anybody would think that racing would be best there, but if anyone were racing on Union, I can easily see how one wrong calculated move can be disastrous.
I use to live on Union and Highland, it’s not a street to race on, I’m not surprised this never made it to the local news paper reporter Barbara Giasoni.
what street is?
Has anybody asked to see the police report? That’s what Barbara Giasone copies for her “articles.”
Drunk driving and/or street racing cannot be condoned in any way. End of discussion on that.
That being said, to elude to the idea that this reflects poorly on Heroe’s is absurd. One of the very few restaurants in downtown with a stellar reputation in the community. As we continue to get more and more low lifes coming in from other cities (Santa Ana, Anaheim, Garden Grove) to enjoy our downtown, we must recognize that this particular establishment does a great job of conducting business overall. One idiot does not represent a whole business. He is responsible soley for his own actions…end of discusion.
While I agree that it’s not “right” to drink and drive, regardless of who you are, you make no mention as to whether this employee had come from Hereo’s that night.
If this employee had come from Hereo’s, then I wholeheartedly agree that Hereo’s should have been more responsible in dealing with belligerent a employee who has imbibed beyond their limits.
However, if the “employee” came from a different establishment or possibly a private party at a home, it’s impossible for an employer to monitor all employees’ activities on their “off time” regardless of the employers attempt in educating their employees of the fatal dangers of drinking and driving (keeping in mind I’m assuming a “Leads Program” has been implemented by Hereo’s).
Should have the employee have known better than to act so recklessly? Absolutely.
Should Hereo’s be held responsible for such foolish behavior? More facts are necessary…..the jury remains out……
I’m sure you know this by now….but most people are just not that smart.
With all that being said….drunk driving should not be tolerated and racing on public streets should incur jail time. The two together should allow the law abiding citizens of Fullerton to a public caning of the violator. Please be sure to post when the caning should occur. I would like to attend.
It’s quite obvious that this was posted to slam Heroes and the management at Heroes. Everyone should agree that drunk driving and street racing is illegal and not being responsible to everyone that may be in their path. I’d like to see you post a similiar article about the drunk drivers, fights ect from your downtown drinking establishments but you won’t out of loyalty to your buddies. This appears to have been posted to try and smear the name of a business owner and bar that you obviously don’t like.
Nice attempt to smear a stand up business….this crap was written by a complete fool
Well maybe the “fool” who wrote this can add some more details about the event.
If the perp was a drunk who also happens to work at Heroes as a bartender it doesn’t say much for the sort of judgement you want in a guy passing out drinks to others, right? That’s just common sense.
I’ve always liked Heroes, although I agree that the bartenders treat people like cattle.
Nevertheless, I agree that it is important to have more facts in the case. Did the perpetrator come from working at Hero’s that night? If so, Heroes has a responsibility to do something about the employee. If not, the person was acting recklessly and foolishly on his own time.
Heroes should not be held responsible for that.
I personally know of the events that transpired that night and the individual involved. 1. There was no street racing. 2. A car sideswiped him and threw him out of control. 3. Yes drunkdriving is wrong and believe me he is being punished quite severely. 4. He is not a bartender, but a barback who occassionally waits on tables. 5. For the individual who posted this my personal opinion of you is you are extremely prone to developing your own stereotypes and way to judgemental. Have you never made a mistake in your life? Luckily only objects were damaged and no lives were claimed. Let’s look at the bright side.
Let’s see if I’ve got this right. This driver (drunk) gets sideswiped (if they weren’t racing the other car must have been passing him or going the other way) and flips? If he was going fast enough to flip he probably wasn’t being passed. If the car was going the other way it would have hit him on the left hand side and knocked him into the parked cars.
Something here is really weird.
Yes a car coming the opposite direction and him sideswiped. This spun him (inebriatedly) into a parked car and rolled over it. Remember it was only one car, not a full street. He spun into the rear of the car and rolled over it.
Well, okay, if you say so. It seems like some laws of physics were violated. Unless the SOB was going real, real fast.
Are you kidding me, because he happens to work at Heroes we get this…What about Sean Francis being invoved in a traffic collision in his Bentley. Here is an owner of two bars in our city and one in Brea… no mention of that story. Your out to bad mouth Jack at any cost. Thats BS
Incorrect #15. If you have some information about Sean Francis or his bartenders driving under the influence, send it along. I’ll publish it.
Downtown Fullerton has a problem with booze and boozers. We don’t need anybody who can’t handle their liquor passing out drinks to other drunks.
Tony, stand down. Everyone, has baggage, including you. Do you want yours aired on your own site????? I think we should all move on. Delete your thread…..
Just in case you forgot here’s the post intro:
We received an e-mail a while back from a concerned Friend with a story to tell. In the interest of public information and dialogue we reprint it, below. Take it for what you think it’s worth. Comments on this event are more than welcome:
What baggage are you talking about Yikes? Go ahead and air it. He’s got no problem putting others out there.
Don’t forget to stop at the DUI checkpoint in Fullerton tomorrow. We don’t need no stinkin’ probably cause to stop you. It’s for your own good, dontcha know.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/fullerton-checkpoint-police-2540764
Hey guys stay on point and out of gutter. Everyone appreciates better government and constructive input, but not name calling and mud slinging. Keep up the good work and treat others the way you would like to be treated.
how does this have anything to do with “better government?” A drunk kid who happened to work at Heroes crashed his car. And as far as Heroes being responsible for this, that’s absurd. Businesses shouldn’t have to administer a breathalyzer before employees leave for the night. Being a longtime Fullerton resident, Heroes is the only place in DTF I will go for a beer because they don’t put up with hoodlums in their establishment.
#23, if you are a long time resident then you are well aware of the alcohol realted problems in DTF, a situation that our City Council has created, has tolerated and even after all the trouble, has still encouraged.
The idea behind the letter seems to be the problem of a bartender who works in DTF and who apparently drinks and drives. In this context it has relevance to the mess in DTF.
Admin posted the letter because of this relevance, I suspect. If you, or anyone else would like to write a post that holds a contrary opinion, I will post it. Just e-mail it to us.
#24, then why don’t you do some research and find out what other bartenders from DTF bars have been arrested for DUI. It’s no secret that FFFF has it in for Jack and his restaurants. Funny we never read any stories about the Continental, Slide Bar, Sean Frances and the relationship with Shawn Nelson… hummmm
And try to stick to one name, Krusty.
Sorry #25, we don’t have the resources to track every wayward employee in DTF. But if you have any information regarding any bar owner or bartender busted on a drunk driving rap please forward it and quit yer bitchin.
“We don’t need anybody who can’t handle their liquor passing out drinks to other drunks.” -Admin
That’s the bottom line, in my opinion. No one is perfect, but in this particular situation, this idiot of a drunk driver should have that specific moral perfected. Whoever wrote this letter obviously feels that representation is important. And guess what? It is. It’s obvious some of you are completely ignorant about that. Should a convicted child molester ever work with kids? Should a drunk [driver] ever work with alcohol? Should a convicted killer ever work in a hospital? Do these sounds like oxymorons to you? Maybe because they are, and yes, they should be unsettling. I’m not saying redemption is impossible for any of these kinds of people, but all of you would assume a negativity about these scenarios before believing it would turn out just fine. And I mean all of you, especially the ones who are insisting this is a letter to smear Heroes. He/She simply had a bad experience with a bar tender, and now this… which doesn’t help the establishment in any way whatsoever. So thank you, writer of this letter, for doing your job as a concerned Fullerton resident. Keep it up.