Is Pat McPension Voting on Settlements to Cover Up His Poor Decisions as Police Chief?
Could be. These things are decided by the City Council behind closed doors in what is called “Closed Session.”
It would be a pretty neat and convenient trick to be able to sweep a whole lot of nasty crap under the carpet that might otherwise be more closely scrutinized during a public trial. And when that nasty crap reflects directly on your own incompetence, ignorance, and misfeasance, so much the better.
So it is with Fullerton City Council recall target and former Chief of Police, Pat McKinley. See, Pat is the guy who personally hired all the FPD goons, thieves, pickpockets, druggies, perjurers and killers who have been in the news lately. He says he is proud of all of them (but two – presumably the “aliens” Cicinelli and Ramos). And he apologizes for nothing
Consider this: as a City Councilman McKinley can get to decide how much money is paid out to the victims of those low-life hires he is so proud of. The conclusion that some of these payouts give off the stink of hush money is inescapable. A $350,000 payout was made just recently in the Albert Rincon sexual assault cases; and new plaintiffs are already forming a considerable conga line. What was McKinley’s role in this settlement? What will his role be in future FPD-caused civil suit settlements?
The most embarrassing issue of all (and potentially the most costly), will be the fact that then Chief McKinley knowingly hired and happily deployed to the streets of Fullerton a one-eyed cop whom the Chief of the LAPD wisely rejected as unfit for duty; and McKinley did it knowingly and happily as a favor to an old crony. Obviously no thought was given to the safety of the very public McKinley had sworn to protect.
This appears to me as a blatant conflict of interest and so, one hopes, it would also appear to McKinley. But unfortunately McKinley’s sense of ethics and sense of self-entitlement are a lot different than mine and yours.
Are you comfortable with McKinley having anything to do with settling a case that would shine a spotlight on his own corrupt misfeasance? The embarrassing details of the sexual predator Albert Rincon will never receive the public scrutiny of a public trial; nor will the fact that this was just another of the many miscreants hired and let loose on the public by McKinley.
Will McKinley recuse himself on the Quinonez and Veth Mam cases? Or the Kelly Thomas case? What about possible employee decisions with regard to Hampton, Wolfe, Blatney, Klein, Mejia, et al? If not, he is putting his lack of ethics on display; if he does it begs the question of how he can serve on the Council at all. See where I’m going with this?
Maybe you would just feel more comfortable if he weren’t in office anymore, at all.
He never should have been elected.
you got that right!
True huh. Everything is done in closed door sessions like that. Can’t talk about or discuss personnel actions. They settle lawsuits behind closed doors. Crazy. It’s all public information though right? Public records request has to show what lawsuits were settled and for how much? Can’t get much more information than that? Maybe that’s why all 3 didn’t resign. Settle all the pending lawsuits, get them out the door, and then when they win the recall it will be all fresh and all the BS will be long gone. Hmmmmmmm.
Thanks for posting this, and the other important posts. Much of the detailed digging you do makes it possible for the rest of us to know a lot more of what is going on. I love that whistleblowers are contacting you, coming forward and showing what REALLY has been going on all these years.
I for one want these three old council members GONE, and “business as usual” stops once and for all. A fresh group of City Council Members who are competent and reflective of the City would be a nice change. Cronies of Rep Royce all need to go to sleep. Bye bye, nite nite.
Nothing fresh about them, More like old and moldy. More like 3 old men fartin dust. But I am sure R.I. ,you can’t relate to the Blue Hairs, Right. You have stated before, that you are not quite ready to be a blue hair, Yet.
Nope. Not even close. Well, 2/3 of the way there. I’m not farting dust though. Solid, healthy farts.
You make me laugh!!!!!
What makes you think their going to win the recall? Man, either I have been whipped up in a tornado and sent to the Land of OZ or you’ve been sent to the Land of Misfits..
Nice. Keep the pressure on.
Thanks guys for keeping it real.
I haven’t posted a comment on here in quite a few months but thought I would tonight due to the rapid spike in Google search terms (Hint, hint-I have Google Analytics) using me and my freelance writing assignments as Google search terms. The funniest search term that I enjoyed was, “Kimberly Wolfe Friends for Fullerton’s Future.” Four searches of this! Imagine that! Whoever is searching, let me give you a little advice-spend your time on worthwhile endeavors.
This is worthwhile…try searching Kim kardashian for a laugh. Whatever you do though, DO NOT Google image search “blue waffle”, that is seriously not good lol
LOL!!! I’ll remember that.
“Maybe you would just feel more comfortable if he weren’t in office anymore, at all.”
Amen!
McKinley should absolutely recuse himself from all legal and personnel matters involving the FPD, which would necessarily cripple his tenure as a councilman. He made his bed, let him lie in it.
Bankhead was also once a policeman. lets recuse him as well.
who the hell is Kimberly Wolfe? And why would anyone search, on this? I love technology. And how did Kimberly know we are here, or the question is why does it care?
Let me answer that question for you, CG. I’m a freelance writer who has written for a few Web sites that cover Fullerton. I’ve done 3 articles dealing with Kelly Thomas and the Fullerton PD and have commented on here in the past. Let me give you a hint though, folks-when you Google my name, it’s not spelled KIMBERLEY. My first name is KIMBERLY. I always say just make sure you spell my name right, and someone sure as heck didn’t!
Is your husband a police officer?
No. I was in fact shocked to see that one of the officers involved in this has my last name. As far as I know, I’m not related to him.
Oh Kimberly, do you still have hang-ups with people spelling your name wrong? Those are kind of little things that go away as you age.. That’s when you realize life’s too short to sweat the small stuff..
Does your boss, supervisor Nelson, endorse your activities Mr. Zenger
I have no idea who Mr. Zenger is, if he is the author of any post, or if he has any association with Shawn Nelson> If all of those things were true, since when would that have any impact on what somebody can say in a non-official capacity? None? Yeah!
Oh, OK. Sure you can’t see how a coordinated “attack” by the Norby-Nelson-Whitaker political “lineage” (and their hangers on) is irrelevant.
The only one of the three w a modicum of integrity is Whitaker.
Kimberley you are a moron like the rest of the fffers! Who cares who googles you! Get over yourself!!
Now I know who Googled me! Yay! And it’s KIMBERLY. Thanks for solving the mystery for me!
BUSTED!!! aaaa-hahahahahahahah !!!
Sadly, you ate irrelevant.
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rolls eyes…….
Freudian slip there, Dr. Zillman? 😉
Hey, FFFF… “Don’t jump to conclusions.”
Looks like the old FFFF white spy van is back in town..Oh guess who it’s spying on now…Looks like Jackie is still bedding down at the old trailer park…Jens getting ready to go work at her two jobs and Chris is busy making up shit on his computer. Thank god daddy Tony is laying some bones on chris because other than a little scratch from being on the school board Jen’s had to do the all the heavy lifting and support the family. Let’s see what’s in Tony’s trash, looks like an old copy of Blue Boy magazine and some empty Bush beer cans. Well boys better check better for those GPS trackers..Til next next time good luck and happy hunting from the old ffff spy van.
Good grief, talk about a DRAMA QUEEN. The only spying you know how to do is through the keyhole in your sister’s bedroom door.
jackie loves chris probably hid under the bed while mom and dad were doing the nasty..
(I just I threw up a little bit in my mouth!) No doubt! And looking out of his older brother’s closet when HE was … well, you know! lol!
jackie loves chris, please put the pipe down.. You don’t realize it but, you are embarrassing yourself..
Yep, me and my trailer park. You sure are smart!
Tuco lives out in the desert!……..
But still Tuco knows Trolls.
The lady on the city council and Bruce Whittaker can be no votes. In addition, they can request official city attorney rulings on whether Pat McPension is allowed to participate in the settlement votes. So far as Tuco knows, they have done nothing! They can also demand an outside attorney opinion if the City Attorney declaration is not to their liking. Again, as far as Tuco knows, they have done nothing!
There are 5 council members. Getting McPension to recuse himself because he is the hiring person involved makes the vote 2-2. So its time to put some pressure on the other two councilmembers who are not subject to recall.
Tuco, you remind me of Eli Wallach.
And I agree with everything you said.
lol! God bless Eli Wallach.
from Fullerton Stories 21st September 2011″several more people came forth during the public comments section to volunteer. But an alternative proposal that sought to limit participation was motioned by Councilman Pat McKinley and approved by Council members Don Bankhead and Richard Jones.
“We have a capable person in Rusty Kennedy as CEO and he could direct and determine anybody else they would need on the task force,” McKinley argued. “I think going through a long process of selection would dilute it.”
Not all of McKinley’s goons wear Fullerton police officers uniforms
Are you calling Rusty Kennedy a stooge of the cops?
I hope you are because that’s what he is.
if you infer a grown man who is subordinate, compliant , used by others to do unpleasant tasks for those government officials who decide every year whether to continue funding his job as executive director of the orange county human relations commission, then you aptly characterize rusty ,boy, kennedy who probably believes he is a social justice warrior because he goes after those prepubescent vandals who spray paint bad words over their junior high schools urinals while remaining silent on the beating death of a disabled, homeless man by fullerton police officers. not until public outcry did rusty’s colleague and ex-board member of rusty’s commission , pat mckinley, ask rusty boy to run community interference. so mckinley asks rusty to be the CEO of the fullerton task force on homelessness and mental illness. more interference? But this is my opinion inferred from what I have read in the media
just because a grown man separates his pennies, nickels, dimes,quarters into color-coded ,plastic coin purses, that act dos not make him a wimp.
The Fullerton public should realize that going forward we must never again elect a council with a majority being former or current city of Fullerton employees.
City employees have collective bargaining rights plus the sympathy of the majority of the council.
Who is standing up for the citizens of Fullerton?
The answer is Councilman Whitaker.
Now let us get at least two more council members to join him in his lonely battle to bring sanity, integrity and fiscal responsiblity back to the council.
Wouldn’t that be refreshing for a change?
WE MUST NOTt elect 3 old men who all live on the same hill. Charters and Wards coming to Fullerton within the next 5 to 10 years..
that’s the best idea I’ve heard on here. thanks Erin.
This is nothing but good sense!
I want a City Council where ALL 5 have different opinions on everything. They should have to sit in a room, discuss and convince one another why their opinion counts. I want a City Council that is diverse and will WORK for the people..
Exactly! No one has all of the answers on their own.
You have obviously never met Dr. HeeHaw. He has an opinion on everything and each one is more ignorant that the one that came before.
Will Genacco be allowed to look at the Rincon case or is that now “off the table” because of the terms of the settlement? And is Genacco going to look at the clear conflict of interest in having the former boss now deliberate over the payouts and contract terms to bury these criminal/civil complaints?
Genacco is looking at the department as a HOLE… errr whole..
Looking at the department as a HOLE…lol
Nice one Erin.
***takes a bow***
tah-dah!
I’m wondering why Fullerton pensioners like Bankhead and McKinley are allowed to vote on any budget matters that effect their own massive pensions.
Poor decisions??!!
How about screamingly incompetent??!!
Don’t trust Gennacos white washed report! Above all,don’t forget who is giving him his paycheck!
Gennaco is another part of the problem in these instances, not of solutions. Do not be fooled by his involvement.
Gennaco can look into the unsettled cases of Officer Rincon. Only two of 8 or 10 were settled. Thus, he has every opportunity to investigate how it was handled internally by FPD.
Remember: Tuco knows………….
Yes. He can look into them. As I said, what may be found is a low level of discipline. Problem is if discipline was issued, the cases are closed discipline wise. Settlements are a separate issue.
Speaking of settlements – the closed session agenda for November 15, 2011 has three existing cases (with the names of those who filed suit against Fullerton) and 4 potential cases (split as 1 case/3 cases/no names given)…
McKinley should recuse himself from any police involved settlement, if he hired any of the officers involved, being discussed in closed sessions. This would require some sort of ethical and moral fiber, so it will robably never happen……Wonder if some of these civil lawyers can delay thier settlement requests or demands until after the successful recall.
That way, McKinley would not be on the City Council and not be eligible to vote on anything…….
Is there any way to access any of the civil suit payout documents through a Freedom of Information Act or is that just wishful thinking? Or are they sealed and not part of the public domain?
Also, in the public part of the meeting, Bankhead’s renewed appointment to his sleeping compartment – the Water Board… hmm… water board what’s worse? “blousing” or water boarding”? Copied from the agenda:
“Vote to reconfirm Council Member Quirk-Silva to the Orange County Sanitation District Board and Mayor Pro Tem Bankhead to the Orange County Water District Board to comply with recent Fair Political Practices Commission interpretation of California conflict of interest laws.”
So what is the cure here? How do we ensure good quality in our police department?
As I am sure you are aware I am in this for the betterment of Fullerton citizens so ask: How do we go about taking back our community?
Any ideas?
Advertising works, but it takes money. Put forth a candidate, form a super pac, solicit donations, and buy ad space on buses, tv and radio, FaceBook and Google.
A slick ad campaign using wicked humor is best – nothing makes an opponent look worse than being ridiculed in public. And God knows you have a cornucopia of material to work with.
Erin:
I believe various opinions on the council would lead to more discussion and reasoning between the council members.
This would require consensus building since there would not be an automatic majority on almost all issues as is the case today!
However, please note that the city manager and all other department heads that run the city today already have a built-in bias.
In addition, the unions are allowed to pour tens of thousands of dollars backing their candidates.
This gives an unfair advantage to the union backed candidates.
What we really need is to have a majority of the council, if not all 5 council members who have complete allegiance to the taxpaying public ahead of the interests of the city employees.