The Security Camera Win-Win. Prescient Irony From FPD!
Watch this discussion from a few years back about adding surveillance cameras in the Fullerton Transportation Center. Of course the FPD captain is overjoyed at having another opportunity to make things safer. Be sure to view all the way to the end where you can enjoy Doc Dick holding forth on the issue of public safety.
I’m actually starting to miss Keller. Man, she was sharp!
And HeeHaw starts talking about English “bobbies”? Jeez that guy was losing it years ago.
2:58 into the clip begins the prophecy
“How many crimes in progress have been stopped?”. None on July 5, 2011.
Or, PRIOR TO THAT DATE…OBVIOUSLY!
“This is just another tool to help keep people safe, and HOPEFULLY get to justice with a succesful prosecution.”
WE WANT TO KNOW, HOW MANY CASES FROM CAMERAS HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED AND WHO WON?
Yawn…
“When you open your mouth, I want to grab a baseball bat” – Ron Thomas to Dick Jones.
This is one insane old fool who loves flapping his gums. He is in it for his own agendas. I watched many other videos of this corrupter and he holds grudges. If you do not endorse him for mayor he will deny Fullertons medical and safety concerns. A True Piece Of Shit! He will have a nice warm spot reserved in the lake of fire.
the part where she calls her fellow citizens her audience…priceless
Fullerton Stories is clearly in collusion with Fullerton PD (emphasis on Sgt. Andrew Goodbitch). Just take a gander at this pointless “story”.
http://fullertonstories.com/police-log-august-21-%E2%80%93-27-2011/
Just curious, but how exactly does the publication of a police log “clearly” indicate to you some kind of “collusion?” I’ve always thought it was part of “the public’s right to know,” like the names of the officers involved in the Kelly Thomas beatdown. It’s good to know what the cops are up to, isn’t it?
You mean the Kelly Thomas failure to comply with police instructions. He’d be alive if he didn’t resist…
So not complying with officers instructions gives justification for being beaten to death? I did not know that. I thought police officers received training and more or less had to follow the actual laws they were supposed to be enforcing. My mistake.
DAMN RIGHT!
When an Officer tells you do to anything, the first answer out of your mouth should be SIR, YES SIR! then you do it and thank them for not putting a bullet in your sorry worthless head.
YOU UNDERSTAND ME, CIVILIAN?
In theory yes, In reality they’re only going to report what the public does but when they are up to something they’re going to everything to hide it.
By the way, you gotta love how they named two arrested on 8/26 for molestation based on a report from a roommate.
…Yet the DA hasnt even bothered to interview the Officers Involved in the Kelly Thomas beating even though multiple people witnessed them beating Kelly to death AND it was captured on tape.
My point exactly!
Has anyone heard if the Kelly Thomas case is being sent to the Grand Jury?
I’m not sure there is a bona fide case yet. That’s why we’re all hanging around here.
The obvious question to me is that if these camera’s were purchased with Homeland Security funds for the express purpose of the watch commander being able monitor suspicious individuals in real-time in the downtown transportation corridor then…
1. Why didn’t they zoom in on Kelly when they received the call of a person burgling cars.
2. Why do I continue to see reports of mid-day breaking and entering of vehicles in this lot that go unsolved?
3. It was reported last week in Fullerton Stories that someone removed a catalytic converter from underneath a vehicle which was parked in this parking lot next to the train station. How does someone have time to do that without the Watch Commander noticing anything at all while the theft was in progress?
Those thefts are done in the parking structure. Where are the cameras in there?
I thought the video mentioned cameras there as well.
watch commander was drunk. I saw hacked video of this camera footage on utube
I’m assuming this is some kind of a joke. Not even the cop trolls on this board are this arrogant or stupid, right??
I don’t need to “thank” an officer paid by my tax dollars for not “putting a bullet in my head” since that would be 100% illegal and immoral in all cases (except in rare instances where lethal force was justified — i.e., if I was putting them or others in danger, which would be impossible since I don’t carry weapons and am not a violence-loving-freak like the cop trolls on this board.)
I was wondering the same thing. If the post wasn’t sarcasm, I would say this person has suffered some serious brain damage.
Actually, dipshit, I would like you to start treating US with respect (Sir, Yes, Sir), since we (the people of California) are YOUR boss and not the other way around.
@#24 >it is scum bag cops like you that good cops get a bad rap you are a disgusting excuse for a human being.You night maggots will pay for your crime.my be citizens should be armed as well and my be there will be justice again cops won’t be so fast on the trigger.
there is a prison cell waiting for all of you.Don’t forget to smile for the camera smile for your mug shot officer shit head Hampton.
I think we should put something on the uniforms of these cops that say something like “publicly owned” or “To Serve the public, not public employee pensions or public employee unions, or corrupt politicians.”
If the camera was purchased with federal dollars can we go to the Feds and request a FOIA request instead of the idiots at the city?
“active monitoring” I love that, can we the public be part of it as well. If the city monitored camera has the technology to be triggered by a blue tooth phone then I’m guessing here; that the technology to send the video back to phone is there as well.
When that call came in, was the parking lot monitored from that point on?
If so, was Kelly’s behavior and activity reported to the officers dispatched?
ZING!
I want to know if the tape has been tampered with, if so, the department should be charged with tampering with evidence. This D.A is a piece of shit. He is hiding just like all the other cowards. Orange County needs to recall (if possible) that pathetic DA Tony Ridiculous, Boycott the O.C Register for not being a source of investigative journalism but more so a spoke hole for FPD, and continue to rally for Kelly Thomas. There is a reason that video is not being shown. All of this smells like a huge cover-up. There needs to be a system set up policing the police and apparently the DA. Why was the DA called in 2 days after the beating? Did that give time for the officers to write their frivolous reports? Why is there not any punishment for not following procedures? Who is accountable for not investigating this situation when it happened? Where did the tape go? Where is the 9-11 tape? Where is the voice recording tape from one or more officers? I hope the FBI conducts a full investigation into this cover up..because there is a lot more than a violation of civil rights. Keep fighting Ron Thomas and his lawyers, expose every little detail, every little contradiction, every little lie that the DA and FPD have.
Durr: Thank you for clearly illustrating the “us” (police)and “them”(civilians) attitude so prevalent in our police force. This protocol of “sir yes sir “is normal and acceptable in the military, and used only after soldiers have been instructed as to how to respond appropriately to a command from a superior rank. With the military personnel compromising less than 1% of the US population, I think it’s irrational that police would attempt to communicate on using military commands, none of which civlians have been trained to receive. And yes I did serve my country honorably, and am extremely proud to call myself a veteran.
I thought I would paste this testimonial statement, very well worded, concerning the website http://www.policeabuse.com.
“Excellent site Mr. Kamau!!! The misconduct of the people who are held in the highest regard, is becoming rampant in every State. Thank you for being the best and most qualified site for everyone to bring their own personal experience to light. This is a fair organization that does investigate each complaint, and if they are found to be frivolous, They are exposed as such! For so long now, the Police have only had other Police to Police them, And We can tell that is not working. The more they are exonerated by their peers, the more they feel as if this behavior is acceptable if not expected. Thank you for giving the average citizen a voice against such a corrupt organization! An Injustice anywhere, Is a threat to justice everywhere!!”
Save Us From The Fullerton Cops,
I do hope you are NOT including me in your “cop trolls” count.
You’re ok in my book, amigo.
Things move pretty fast around here. FFFF is a pretty popular website these days, and that’s good. Kelly’s story is alive and well, and growing.
I posted this link from yesterday’s Wall Street Journal law blog, but it was blown over. I normally wouldn’t waste FFFF’s precious bandwidth with a repost, but I think some of you will find this interesting:
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/08/30/first-circuit-upholds-right-to-videotape-arresting-officers/
Keep up the good work, everyone.
Absolutely not. Besides yourself, there have been a few other current and retired LEOs here who have added a lot to the conversation.
I’m talking about those actual trolls whose only goal is to say vile, callous things about Kelly Thomas and his grieving family, especially those who find this a funny, cute game to be filled with smiley faces and who minimize the life (and death) of Kelly.
Fullerton Museum has a popular “ghost walk” that it conducts every year around Halloween. I know this is probably just “morbid curiousity”, however I’m wondering if they will mention or acknowledge Kelly Thomas’s murder as part of their tour or will they also try and cover it up? http://www.cityoffullerton.com/depts/museum/events/haunted_walking_tours.asp
Fullerton’s citizens had been fooled by Fullerton officials and police department. We become survillance and police state. Like camera traffics, I would like to share you a secrets: taxpayers are paying for all these toys and projects to benefits the cops.
Cops and politicans never like but they do it for their onw goods, simply because they controlling them.
Speaking of cops and cameras.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eg0IOhiFD4&feature=player_embedded
WHO TRAINS THESE IMBECILES.. WTF
“The officers claimed they were immune from the suit because they were acting in their official capacity”
WHY do we have to put up with this.. WHY..
ONE HUGE THING I noticed in all of this.. WE NEED PAID Ombudsmen etc to interact with and train the police constantly..
I sympathize with them that their job can be incredibly stressful and anger inducing if their minds are not set right
Shit.. I just remembered some interview I had to work for Sony.. they asked me questions that were mmpi related and repeated over and over .. to make sure they didn’t hire an environmentalist etc
well, do the cops screen well enough
do we screen them well enough
do we consistently check in with them to make sure they are not losing their minds?
I think they train themselves, Anonymous.
Therein lies the source of the malignancy we’re currently facing.
Yours was an excellent post, BTW.
Here’s that link again:
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/08/30/first-circuit-upholds-right-to-videotape-arresting-officers/
You need to do something about the complaint intake process first, then you get an ombudsman or oversight person! Put civilians on police oral boards when hiring! Don’t use retired cops or buddies of someone who knows someone!
As I stated in previous posts, all cops in all ranks need to undergo a 730 Forensic Psychiatric Evaluation and for some ‘Anger Management’ classes which the courts so often mandate that an “accused” man of domestic violence undergo.
Wrong, those classes and tests won’t do any good. This crap should have been caught before they were hired. Just incompetence on city HR people!`
Kelly Thomas Killing
Ron Thomas Hopes Fullerton Police Officers Who Killed His Son Are So Scared of Threats That “They Have Diarrhea Every Day”By Gustavo Arellano Sun., Aug. 28 2011 at 9:11 AM Comments (61) Categories: Kelly Thomas Killing
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Yesterday was one of the less-attended weekend protests outside the Fullerton Police Station for their killing of Kelly Thomas–just about 150 people showed up on a baking Saturday afternoon. That didn’t bother Kelly’s father, Ron, at all.
“I’m glad that these people were dedicating these beautiful Saturdays to bring justice for my son” he told Weekly correspondent Ed Carrasco. “I can’t expect all of them to come out every week and they deserve a break. It doesn’t mean that they’re not for the cause at all.”
The big mainstream-media story in the Kelly Thomas murder this week (since none will pick up Friends for Fullerton’s Future recent interview of a witness) was the refusal by the Orange County District Attorney’s office to publicly release the names of the six officers involved in Kelly’s beating death because they’re supposedly receiving death threats. To that, Ron had something rather wonderful to say.
Good job Fed Up With Morons!!! It totally doesn’t make sense for somebody who’s son was possibly murdered to hope that the alleged murderers get diarrhea!!! What an EFFING JERK!!!! Just because you might have murdered somebody, possibly by bashing their skull in after they were unconscious and crushing their windpipe, doesn’t mean you deserve diarrhea! I mean COME ON…diarrhea???
Ahhhh studley dowrong! Think about it, cops that committed murder are going to have churning stomachs, headaches, high blood pressure and diarrhea! Ron Thomas said he hoped that they had it every day, not I ass wad!
Watch these asses go out on stress disability retirement before trial!
Get your facts straight before you start calling names!
Oh and stud learn how to read and decipher written words!
FULLERTON LOVER,
Proud veteran here also. Thank you for your service. Semper Fi.
FED UP,
Semper Paratus=Always Leaking
After all the money spent these years, Fullerton has No use of their surveillance system.
When these 6 cops beat a homelessman to death, the cameras are useless.
Who would benefits the most from these lucrative projects at Fullerton?
Demand an audit! You may discover more than camera back door wheeling-dealing!
Did anyone know that there was a civilian police academy?
From “Dragnet” and “Dirty Harry” to “Barney Miller” and “CSI,” the public has long been fascinated with the world of the police officer.
But the world depicted on television and in movies differs vastly from the real-life challenges faced by law enforcement every day on America’s streets. Too often, this difference can lead to misunderstandings between the police and the citizens they serve.
In an effort to give citizens a clear picture of the day-to-day world of the police officer, the Fullerton Police Department is gearing up to host a new session of its popular “Citizen Police Academy” in March.
The 10-week course, which will be held from March 11 through May 13, “exposes participants to the many facets of police work in their community,” explained Fullerton Police Chief Pat McKinley.
“Participants will gain an overall knowledge of the Fullerton Police Department, how it’s organized, and how it serves the community, and they will learn about the men and women behind the badge.”
McKinley emphasized the course is not meant to train people to become police officers; rather, “it is intended to open communication between the community and the department.”
The classes, which will be held from 6-9 p.m. Wednesdays at the department, will be taught by personnel from all areas of the agency, including patrol officers, detectives, dispatchers, and managers.
A graduation ceremony will be held at the conclusion of the training.
Participants must be at least 21, and must live, work or attend school in Fullerton. Applicants must also schedule a ride-along with the department prior to attending the academy.
Citizens interested in participating in the program may request an academy application and a ride-along participation form by either calling Officer Hazel Perez at the Fullerton Police Department at 738-6835, or by emailing her at hperez@fullertonpd.org.
Deadline for returning the applications is Feb. 27
Participants will be fingerprinted and photographed. Applicants may not have any outstanding warrants, pending criminal cases or felony convictions
Persons requiring special accommodations to participate in the academy are asked to notify Perez at the time of registration.