Why delete my post regarding relevant questions regarding Kiger and Thompson and the incident at Beechwood School?
Chris Thompson was one of the most vocal critics of the Police Department and the old City Council, with most of his criticism focused on an alleged lack of transparency and coverup by the PD.
Thompson went on to be the campaign manager of now-City Council member Travis Kiger, who was also a frequent and vocal critic regarding lack of transparency and an alleged coverup by the police department.
And now we have these incidents, which raise so many questions.
Regarding the first incident:
1. Why did Thompson report the first incident directly to the police chief? Was he looking for preferential treatment? Was it because he didn’t want his phone call to be recorded through the 911 or business line? Why wouldn’t he have just reported it to dispatch to get a patrol car there as quickly as possible?
2. Why would he initiate a confrontation in the parking lot rather than wait for a patrol car?
3. I’d like to know more about the pursuit. What speeds were reached? Were traffic laws broken? Did Thompson stop at the stop sign at Rolling Hills Drive & Puente Street? What about any red lights at Rolling Hills Drive and Brea Blvd?
4. Was a report taken regarding this incident? If not, why not, as Thompson made allegations of a statutory rape (Penal Code Section 261.5) having occurred?
5. If an officer responded and had contact with Thompson, where are the recordings of the contact?
Regarding the second incident on July 8th:
1. Who called the police? Where is the recording of the call? After all, much has been made by Kiger regarding the releasing of the 911 tape on Kelly Thomas. Why isn’t it appropriate to release this call, too, in a timely manner, especially if there is no pending investigation?
2. Thompson responded to a verbal barrage by the minor with a physical push. Technically, that’s a battery (Penal Code Section 242) involving a minor, which could also possibly be construed as a misdemeanor violation of Penal Code Section 273a(a) (Child Abuse). At the very least it should have been documented, since it involved an adult and a minor. The minor also may have violated Penal Code Section 422 through his threats. Was a report taken at this time? If not, why not?
3. Where are the recordings of the officer contact at this incident?
For Kiger:
1. Explain why it was appropriate for you to notify Thompson of a public records request by Fullerton Stories regarding these incidents.
2. Why are the police reports not being released? If any minors were identified, why not just redact the report to eliminate any information which might identify the minor(s)?
3. Why can’t you immediately release recordings of any calls made in reference to these incidents just like you did with the Kelly Thomas recording?
4. Since this involved city business, why shouldn’t any and all phone records regarding your call to Thompson, and any subsequent call on the subject, should be made public?
After all, if an incident like this occurred involving any of the three recalled council members, Kiger, Thompson, and Bushala would be asking for all this and more. Isn’t it more than a little hypocritical for such “transparent” politicians like Kiger and Thompson not to be forthcoming with this information?
talk to the other people in the neighborhood, this crap is always going on, at that school, after hours. The question is why does it take so long for the FPD to show up.
Why does it take so long to respond? Most acts of love in the back seat occurr on the weekends during the late night hours. Take a moment to read the police log of crimes occurring at the same time. Officers are dealing with robberies, assaults, domestic violence calls and taking drunk drivers off the road.
Love in the back seat is not a priority at that time of night.
But if you call the Cheif directly you may be able to intimidated the cheif enough to pull police resources off of public safety issues and on to your personal morals crusade. For this is Fullertons Future.
I won’t do that due to fear of retaliation by Kiger , Thompson, Bushala, and the rest of the people on this board. A PRA would identify me. I’m a resident and business owner with a lot to lose. I’ve seen how Bushala and his mob responds to his perceived enemies. It isn’t pretty.
…didn’t seem to stop old horse teeth from “braying in”….
Pam Keller 路 CSUF
Interesting that you find this story “unimportant” Chris. I think it is important to know when a school board member, an elected official, gets in a physical altercation with a minor. I can just imagine if this was one of our teachers, you would be all over it! You are the adult, you couldn’t handle this without “pushing him out of your face”?
Reply 路 10 路 Like 路 Follow Post 路 July 28 at 4:16pm
Pam,goofy smile, Keller wades in on this issue because she is a teacher. Except she gets paid a teacher’s salary for not teaching. Instead, she runs a collaborative that seems effective only as a propaganda tool for Fullerton’s old regime, Bankhead, jones and McKinley and their cronies
Let me get my perspective right here. Kellys Army faced one of the most vindictive group of assholes around in the FPD POA yet they openly had the courage to call for justice and submit PRA’s. You wont because you fear Travis Kiger?
Good test for the new Fullerton libertarian majority. Lesson to be taken away from this: Play it by the book. No caling the Chief, no using personal relationships when dealing with The City.
Residents of Fullerton deserve to know what their government is doing. When the city hides information, misleads citizens and covers up misdeeds, it creates big problems.
I will fight to change the culture at city hall to one of openness and free, helpful access to information for all.
Easy, your post was deleted because the folks who run this site are enormous hypocrites and God forbid if someone catches them with their pants down…especially me!
This is going to be a really expensive Fall for Daddy Bushala! I love the ruthlessness with which Kiger is going after his enemies. So much for all that talk about transparency!
Same nonsense different faces. This is ammo for all the others running. Bravo Thompson…Bravo. This is just like when you sent out the email right before the recall, and had to redact it. This is such a bad version of Parks and Rec.
I’m donating the portion of the recent water rate reduction to the Mayor-Pro Tem’s campaign. It’s enough for me that the new council voted to stop the scheme that previously skimmed 10% of all the water revenue toward unknown purposes while our pipeline system went into disrepair. While rates may have to go up again to cover long-delayed improvements (400 years under the previous council) to our pipeline system at least the residents will be told about our options and what we may be paying for.
Look at these two side by side. Now Google pictures of Adolf Hitler, and Josef Goebbels circa 1943. We have finally got the good guys in office to make things happen! Sieg Heil!
as a friend told me recently “I’d vote for orange juice over Obama”…I feel the same way about city council….ANYONE over Bankhead or any of his old fart cronies.
ICOLD CHILLIN’COP “BALLS 2” IT SEEN LIKE U KNOW PRETTY WELL THE CALIFORNIA PENAL CODES BOOK BY HART,WHY U DON’T GO AND TEACH ALL THOSE FPD ALL UR ACKNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE PENAL CODES CUZ APPARENTLY THE BLUE BOYS FROM FPD ,THEY DON’T KNOW THEM NETHEIR BY CODE ,THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW THAT IS A BOOK CALL THE PENAL CODE BOOK OF CALIFORNIA,WHY CHRIST DIDN’T CALL THE POLICE 911 CAUSE SIMPLE HE KNOWS THE DISPACHER OR OFFICERS ARE NOT EDUCATE ,AND THEY FPD DON’T KNOW HOW HANDLE IT U NEED TO PRESENT TO THE BLUE BOYS WHAT IS THE PENAL CODE BOOK AND SECOND HOW WRITE AN ACURATE REPORT ,I HAVE SEEING HOW THEY WRITE REPORT THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW HOW SPELL RIGHT A NAME. SO COME ON ,MAYBE THE RIGHT THING WAS TO CALL 911 FIRST BUT AS I SAY THEY DON’T KNOW HOW HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS ,AND THE OFFICERS THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO CALL HIS BOSS TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO ,WHY U DON’T GO AND TRAINING THE WHOLE FPD.AND WHY U DON’T GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IF U HAVE 2 BALL AND TELL THEM ABOUT IT ,AND TOLD ME ONE THING HOE DO U KNOW THE PENAL CODES 273 A ,A MISDEAMINOR VIOLATION OF CODE BOOK CHILD ABUSE .ARE U ONE OF THE TEACHERS OF THE BLUE BOYS ,HAHA U ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THEM AND U ARE SCARE OF BUSHELA AND TRAVIS .UPSS MAYBE THEY CAN FIRE U SOONER HE,HE.
well mr cop balls 2, this is why we have a part time teacher special for you.you can find her on tuesday at the city council meeting .miss ssssharon can teach you to read .u will be his retard student and she ‘ll become a full time teacher .
My sense is that the altercation between Thomspon and the “angry youth” escalated as both parties were mirrors for each other…gives me a heart for the youth
Free lollipop and pencil protector for every attendee.
Yeah, and we’ll save the crayons for you!
And the Play-dough!
I just love pencil protectors 馃槈
We will all gather around and talk about transparency.
About time…
On Chris Thompson.
sounds a bit like Davis or Jesus.
Get ready for a spanking, Coffman. FPOA endorsement = Kiss of Death.
Is FPOA endorsing Don Bankhead again? Jan Flory?
I’d pay to see that — Coffman deserves more than a spanking…
I’d pay to see Coffman mud wrestle Goodrich and Kirk.
Why delete my post regarding relevant questions regarding Kiger and Thompson and the incident at Beechwood School?
Chris Thompson was one of the most vocal critics of the Police Department and the old City Council, with most of his criticism focused on an alleged lack of transparency and coverup by the PD.
Thompson went on to be the campaign manager of now-City Council member Travis Kiger, who was also a frequent and vocal critic regarding lack of transparency and an alleged coverup by the police department.
And now we have these incidents, which raise so many questions.
Regarding the first incident:
1. Why did Thompson report the first incident directly to the police chief? Was he looking for preferential treatment? Was it because he didn’t want his phone call to be recorded through the 911 or business line? Why wouldn’t he have just reported it to dispatch to get a patrol car there as quickly as possible?
2. Why would he initiate a confrontation in the parking lot rather than wait for a patrol car?
3. I’d like to know more about the pursuit. What speeds were reached? Were traffic laws broken? Did Thompson stop at the stop sign at Rolling Hills Drive & Puente Street? What about any red lights at Rolling Hills Drive and Brea Blvd?
4. Was a report taken regarding this incident? If not, why not, as Thompson made allegations of a statutory rape (Penal Code Section 261.5) having occurred?
5. If an officer responded and had contact with Thompson, where are the recordings of the contact?
Regarding the second incident on July 8th:
1. Who called the police? Where is the recording of the call? After all, much has been made by Kiger regarding the releasing of the 911 tape on Kelly Thomas. Why isn’t it appropriate to release this call, too, in a timely manner, especially if there is no pending investigation?
2. Thompson responded to a verbal barrage by the minor with a physical push. Technically, that’s a battery (Penal Code Section 242) involving a minor, which could also possibly be construed as a misdemeanor violation of Penal Code Section 273a(a) (Child Abuse). At the very least it should have been documented, since it involved an adult and a minor. The minor also may have violated Penal Code Section 422 through his threats. Was a report taken at this time? If not, why not?
3. Where are the recordings of the officer contact at this incident?
For Kiger:
1. Explain why it was appropriate for you to notify Thompson of a public records request by Fullerton Stories regarding these incidents.
2. Why are the police reports not being released? If any minors were identified, why not just redact the report to eliminate any information which might identify the minor(s)?
3. Why can’t you immediately release recordings of any calls made in reference to these incidents just like you did with the Kelly Thomas recording?
4. Since this involved city business, why shouldn’t any and all phone records regarding your call to Thompson, and any subsequent call on the subject, should be made public?
After all, if an incident like this occurred involving any of the three recalled council members, Kiger, Thompson, and Bushala would be asking for all this and more. Isn’t it more than a little hypocritical for such “transparent” politicians like Kiger and Thompson not to be forthcoming with this information?
For those that don’t know, my post deals with these two news articles:
http://fullertonstories.com/fsd-trustee-puts-the-brakes-on-extracurricular-activity
http://fullertonstories.com/editorial-public-records-access-for-all
talk to the other people in the neighborhood, this crap is always going on, at that school, after hours. The question is why does it take so long for the FPD to show up.
Why does it take so long to respond? Most acts of love in the back seat occurr on the weekends during the late night hours. Take a moment to read the police log of crimes occurring at the same time. Officers are dealing with robberies, assaults, domestic violence calls and taking drunk drivers off the road.
Love in the back seat is not a priority at that time of night.
But if you call the Cheif directly you may be able to intimidated the cheif enough to pull police resources off of public safety issues and on to your personal morals crusade. For this is Fullertons Future.
You forgot to mention fighting terrorists.
And Krispy Kreme is open 24 hours.
Put in a PRA request to the City and watch all your dreams come true!
I won’t do that due to fear of retaliation by Kiger , Thompson, Bushala, and the rest of the people on this board. A PRA would identify me. I’m a resident and business owner with a lot to lose. I’ve seen how Bushala and his mob responds to his perceived enemies. It isn’t pretty.
Buck, buck, buck. Chicken.
…didn’t seem to stop old horse teeth from “braying in”….
Pam Keller 路 CSUF
Interesting that you find this story “unimportant” Chris. I think it is important to know when a school board member, an elected official, gets in a physical altercation with a minor. I can just imagine if this was one of our teachers, you would be all over it! You are the adult, you couldn’t handle this without “pushing him out of your face”?
Reply 路 10 路 Like 路 Follow Post 路 July 28 at 4:16pm
Pam,goofy smile, Keller wades in on this issue because she is a teacher. Except she gets paid a teacher’s salary for not teaching. Instead, she runs a collaborative that seems effective only as a propaganda tool for Fullerton’s old regime, Bankhead, jones and McKinley and their cronies
Let me get my perspective right here. Kellys Army faced one of the most vindictive group of assholes around in the FPD POA yet they openly had the courage to call for justice and submit PRA’s. You wont because you fear Travis Kiger?
Whuh?
Oh, hell — post your request on OJB (where I can guarantee that it stays posted) and I’ll turn it in. Then Mr. Peabody can do a story on it.
Oh look Felas, Tony’s given the blessing to release the information. Better hurry and do it before he changes his mind.
Good test for the new Fullerton libertarian majority. Lesson to be taken away from this: Play it by the book. No caling the Chief, no using personal relationships when dealing with The City.
http://www.traviskiger.com/the-issues
From Travis Kiger’s own campaign webpage:
Transparency and Open Government
Residents of Fullerton deserve to know what their government is doing. When the city hides information, misleads citizens and covers up misdeeds, it creates big problems.
I will fight to change the culture at city hall to one of openness and free, helpful access to information for all.
Easy, your post was deleted because the folks who run this site are enormous hypocrites and God forbid if someone catches them with their pants down…especially me!
Wonder how many more people would be attending if the invitation wasn’t from Norby.
Norby and his family will eat all the food then he will fall asleep.
@ Cop Balls
Pussy.
Would you like a little cheese with that whine?
This is going to be a really expensive Fall for Daddy Bushala! I love the ruthlessness with which Kiger is going after his enemies. So much for all that talk about transparency!
Expensive for the FPOA. God I hope they back Bankhead and Flory!
Money is flowing in from POA’s from every corner of the state. Cops dislike cop haters and cops hate dirty politicians.
Cops like dirty politicians that give them everything. Keep it real.
They hate the unarmed homeless, too.
We’re backing Travis and Bruce. We hope our endorsement helps! Good luck!
This is going to be a really expensive year for Daddy Bushala! Money well spent when you’re the kingmaker! Who’s next on the hit list?
I make those decisions. I’m Bushala’s Daddy. Everything goes thru me.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. fuck you
That’s wild. Let’s sell the video.
let’s sell the video of you making love to goats
Goats? Pigs squeal better.
Hey pal – change your name if you want to continue making comments here.
Busted. Tony whacked ur balls. 馃檨
Tony, time to cut ties with Thompson. Make the call. Have your people take him for a ride.
The new politicians. Now they can do anything they want. Ownership.
Same nonsense different faces. This is ammo for all the others running. Bravo Thompson…Bravo. This is just like when you sent out the email right before the recall, and had to redact it. This is such a bad version of Parks and Rec.
Check this out:
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/california-gop-del-beccaro/2012/07/27/id/446767
Hahaha!! That’s a good joke!!
Looking for another $236.32 to match the Fullerton residents contributions for the recall?
You had better change your name or Tony will take his ball and go home. Worse yet he will wish you into the corn field.
I’m donating the portion of the recent water rate reduction to the Mayor-Pro Tem’s campaign. It’s enough for me that the new council voted to stop the scheme that previously skimmed 10% of all the water revenue toward unknown purposes while our pipeline system went into disrepair. While rates may have to go up again to cover long-delayed improvements (400 years under the previous council) to our pipeline system at least the residents will be told about our options and what we may be paying for.
Look at these two side by side. Now Google pictures of Adolf Hitler, and Josef Goebbels circa 1943. We have finally got the good guys in office to make things happen! Sieg Heil!
Did anybody out there get a “Save Coyote Hills” flier on their front door last night?
as a friend told me recently “I’d vote for orange juice over Obama”…I feel the same way about city council….ANYONE over Bankhead or any of his old fart cronies.
ICOLD CHILLIN’COP “BALLS 2” IT SEEN LIKE U KNOW PRETTY WELL THE CALIFORNIA PENAL CODES BOOK BY HART,WHY U DON’T GO AND TEACH ALL THOSE FPD ALL UR ACKNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE PENAL CODES CUZ APPARENTLY THE BLUE BOYS FROM FPD ,THEY DON’T KNOW THEM NETHEIR BY CODE ,THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW THAT IS A BOOK CALL THE PENAL CODE BOOK OF CALIFORNIA,WHY CHRIST DIDN’T CALL THE POLICE 911 CAUSE SIMPLE HE KNOWS THE DISPACHER OR OFFICERS ARE NOT EDUCATE ,AND THEY FPD DON’T KNOW HOW HANDLE IT U NEED TO PRESENT TO THE BLUE BOYS WHAT IS THE PENAL CODE BOOK AND SECOND HOW WRITE AN ACURATE REPORT ,I HAVE SEEING HOW THEY WRITE REPORT THEY DON’T EVEN KNOW HOW SPELL RIGHT A NAME. SO COME ON ,MAYBE THE RIGHT THING WAS TO CALL 911 FIRST BUT AS I SAY THEY DON’T KNOW HOW HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS ,AND THE OFFICERS THEY ALWAYS HAVE TO CALL HIS BOSS TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO ,WHY U DON’T GO AND TRAINING THE WHOLE FPD.AND WHY U DON’T GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IF U HAVE 2 BALL AND TELL THEM ABOUT IT ,AND TOLD ME ONE THING HOE DO U KNOW THE PENAL CODES 273 A ,A MISDEAMINOR VIOLATION OF CODE BOOK CHILD ABUSE .ARE U ONE OF THE TEACHERS OF THE BLUE BOYS ,HAHA U ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THEM AND U ARE SCARE OF BUSHELA AND TRAVIS .UPSS MAYBE THEY CAN FIRE U SOONER HE,HE.
Wow.
If I could understand what you were trying to say, I might be tempted to respond.
well mr cop balls 2, this is why we have a part time teacher special for you.you can find her on tuesday at the city council meeting .miss ssssharon can teach you to read .u will be his retard student and she ‘ll become a full time teacher .
My sense is that the altercation between Thomspon and the “angry youth” escalated as both parties were mirrors for each other…gives me a heart for the youth