The Field is Set
Here are your 2012 candidates for Fullerton City Council. Seats will go to the the top three vote-getters.
Rick Alvarez
Businessowner/Planning Commissioner
Bruce Whitaker
Member of the City Council, City of Fullerton
Matthew Hakim
Musician/Artist
Travis Kiger
City Council Member, City of Fullerton
Jennifer Fitzgerald
Fullerton Business Owner
Jan Flory
Family Law Attorney
Jane Rands
Systems Engineer
Roberta Reid
Retired
Vivian “Kitty” Jaramillo
Retired Preservation Inspector
Barry Levinson
Auditor/Parks Commissioner
Brian Bartholomew
Small Business Owner
Don Bankhead
Retired Police Captain
Travis Kiger
City Council Member, City of Fullerton.
IS GONE!
I don’t understand your pseudonym. Are you proud of being an embarrassment to KTMF? And what exactly is your problem with Travis?
Is Kiger the bozo who appointed his wife to the library board /commission over someone with extensive experience?
Nope. That would be Greg Sebourn.
I wonder why?
http://i50.tinypic.com/opqlhf.jpg
Time to play ball. Tony get your checkbook out!
cha-ching
Says here that Jennifer Fitzgerald is the past President of Fullerton Chamber of Commerce…
http://www.cl7communications.com/index.php?pr=About_Us
Yes, lowly peons of Fullerton, I have ruled before, and soon I shall shall rule again.
Who shall stop me? The drunk? Catwoman? Old Blanky? The Alvarez? Only I can give you an experience beyond limits… pain and pleasure, indivisible.
Where’s Diamonds name?
Oh never mind, he lives in Brea, but conducts “commerce” here.
GO TRAVIS AND BRUCE AND WHO EVER ELSE HAS THE COURAGE TO STAND UP FOR FULLERTONIANS.
It’s right up there next to “by NOT,” genius. Brilliant of you to point out that I’m not running for City Council. “BREAKING NEWS”!
Were do I get the “No Bankhead” sign.
Let the games begin!
What happened to that clown Matt Rowe who said he’d run in November?
He endorsed Jane Rands and no development in Coyote Hills. Funny I don’t remember him saying much about that last time.
LOL. Matt Rowe the independent candidate my ass. Jane Rands is to the left of the Democratic party.
Jane Rands has more integrity than just about anybody in Fullerton politics. And she is an independent. Left? Right? These terms are meaningless in Fullerton.
LOL. Spoken like a true liberal educrat.
LOL. Spoken like a true asshat. Glad to see you’re still typing impotent anonymous venom, Snakes. Hope you got your jollies this evening.
Oh, so you want to call me out because I identified myself? OK, I’ll just use a pseudonym after I’m done with this blog post.
I’m not a liberal, and I’m not a “crat.” I’m an educator. I don’t have any TAs around so I’ll grade your blog comments for myself. Let’s see…. F.
Jt. if Rands supports Danny Hughes as Joes says how could you support her?
This is an important election. All need to be painfully honest and not just circle the wagon for their fav candidates. You need to examine the warts on everyone. This is serious.
Joe’s comment below is stupid. I’ll respond there.
I look forward to voting against the incumbents.
You could be any one of eight Fullerton cops who live in Fullerton.
Game over!
Other than Kiger and Whitacker – who is worth a damn on that list?
Barthololmew? Who’s he? I notice he doesn’t hold a commission job and doesn’t appear to have any old ties with the city? Small business owner. hmmm. Is he worth consideration?
Roberta Reid? Retired from what? That makes a big difference. Retired from the private or public sector?
Hakim? Who’s he? Musician/Artist. Liberal? I’ve never met a musician or an artist who knew how to manage money. Maybe Hakim is different. What’s this guy’s track record?
Rands? I saw her speak once at a council meeting. She seemed pretty sharp and down to earth. System’s analyst? hmmm. What’s her ideology?
Out of the options you mentioned, Jane Rands is the most sincere and best chance of reform that we’ve got of the lot. Jane truly cares about Fullerton residents and was one of the original signees of those 30 Fullerton residents who initiated the Fullerton recall efforts. Very involved in local commissions, and is currently spearheading a grass roots effort to form a civilian oversight committee to increase accountability of the FPD to the residents of Fullerton.
I respect your opinion, Fullerton Lover. When I watched Rands speak at the Council Meeting she seemed very sincere and struck me as apolitical.
We need more people in political offices who act less like politicians and more like human beings. Someone who speaks their mind without worrying about how it might affect their reelection. Someone who refuses special interest money or puts their influence up for sale to the higher bidder. Someone who knows the difference between right and wrong – and takes the ‘right’ side even if it’s unpopular with their political party. Someone who refuses to act based on fear of consequences.
Even if someone like that only last one term – they can walk away with their head held high.
God almighty – when will a human being finally win an election?
The problem with Jane is that she is extremely naive. She bought into the “Chief Danny” is a reformer crap even as she promotes a useless “oversight” board for the cops.
I don’t know if she’s ever even addressed the activities of Rincon, Mater, Mejia, Major, Goodrich, Basham, Hampton (Veth Mam, Quinozez), Tong. Thayer, Siliceo, Nguyen, Baughman, etc., etc.
Maybe she will show up and explain.
I didn’t realize that Jane was a member of Danny’s fan club. That’s a big negative. Perhaps it’s as innocent as naivete. If so, she needs to grow up. Otherwise, it could mean real trouble. She needs to be watched closely. You folks don’t need anymore slick polticians on your council. You already got enough of those.
First of all, Travis and others also support some kind of civilian oversight. So this critique is just dumb.
How is she supposed to address all these bad cops? I saw her out there at a bunch of protests, more than I saw any one-armed gun store employee. I even saw her at Anaheim protests. Everybody knows she’s been all over this stuff since the beginning.
Maybe she’ll show up where to explain? She was at the last city council meeting. Were you?
As far as Hughes, you work with what you have. Doesn’t mean you can’t replace him with someone else when the time comes.
Glass houses….stones…etc.
She’s an independent thinker. That’s why she’ll get no more than lip service here.
I’m not sure you know what your talking about Joe. Have you been to any of the “useless oversight board” for the cop meetings that Jane Rands has organized at the Fullerton library?
Didn’t think so.
The City Council is the police oversight board. Period. Nothing else is needed.
I think we all saw how that one worked out for us Joe didn’t we?
Of course we did. Because the City Council was composed of three unaccountable dimwits. Well, four if you count Quirk.
Creating another committee staffed by Chaffee and Quirk appointees and Sebourn’s family members would simply be a distraction.
The staffing that is being discussed with regards to the composition of a police oversight committee, would be by geographical districts in Fullerton and would not be by political appointment.
The city council can’t legally review internal investigations to make sure they were done properly. If an oversight board could, then I’m listening.
This is astoundingly stupid. Now I’m wondering if instead of being Tony (like Fred), you’re Barry Levinson, out to do anything to keep people from voting for Jane.
Barry posts under his own name and wouldn’t knock Jane. IMO.
That someone posts under their own name does not preclude their also posting not under their own name. It’s the Wild West here, as you may have noticed. But I don’t have any real reason to think that this is Barry himself — as opposed to someone who wants him rather than Jane to get that third seat.
I second all of that FL.
“Caring” and “sincerity” are the crapola that got Molly McClanahan’t and Jan Flory elected.
By the way, kudos to whomever came up with Gin Flurry. Genius.
Therefore anyone who cares should be shot?
Actually Tony cares too. That’s why he does what he does. Or would you rather we go with the other narrative that his opponents promulgate?
Sometimes you Ayn Randian types are just clueless, even about your own friends and associates.
You have managed to miss my point entirely, and that’s not easy.
“Caring” as a campaign slogan means you have nothing of substance to offer. “Caring” is neither quantifiable nor verifiable.
Don Bankhead “cares.” So did HeeHaw and Patdown Pat McPension.
Nobody needs to be shot. Rather they need not to be elected.
I would like to hear about things like corruption in the FPD; the 15 year old illegal water tax. The way the city council gave away air rights and public streets worth millions to their pals and campaign donors for nothing!
If “caring” is a happy by-product of a smart, determined, ethical candidate who willing to be held accountable on real issues and for real votes, so much the better.
Sounds like you don’t know too much about Jane Rands Mr. Desert Rat. I suggest you get to know her better and you’d find that she has so much more than a big heart.
She has a big brain also, and a conscience that’s true. The combination of the two can be lethal to those that don’t have either.
“She has a big brain also”
Good to hear. I hope she starts using it.
Please provide specific incidents of how Jane Rands has not used her intelligence in the past?
I heard Jane speaking about the water tax to the council months ago.
The bottom line is pretty much those who know her and observe her respect her, whether they agree with her or not. Those who don’t know her and haven’t really observed her sling insults.
Desert Rat – I hear you. When some people say “they care” its transparent BS. But with some people you can tell its real.
Also, the difference between being a pro-development, pro-subsidy “liberal” and an Independent is pretty big.
It scares me whenever I hear a political candidate described as having a ‘big heart’.
Does that imply that the candidate likes to take money from productive citizens and turn it over to parasites?
If so, that’s not my kind of candidate.
Please elaborate.
To be a serious candidate it is my opinion that Ms. Rands must extricate herself from Danny Hughes’ camp.
Fullerton Lover – how could you back someone who supports Hughes after what you know about Hughes’ contributions to the ‘culture of corruption’?
Please reply.
How have you determined that Jane Rands has supported Daniel Hughes?
What I’ve observed is that Jane Rands is willing to work with whomever is the Chief of Police for the Fullerton Police Department, and frankly JustUs, so am I.
I have children that I’m raising here in Fullerton, as well as hundreds of kids that I’ve coached over the years, and I don’t intend to stand by and wait for someone to be the Chief of Police that I’m compatible with before I do something to change the way that we’re policed.
“and I don’t intend to stand by and wait for someone to be the Chief of Police that I’m compatible with before I do something to change the way that we’re policed”
Then vote for Jane because you believe she might provide oversight of the cops herself. I agree with Sipowicz. Fullerton doesn’t need some dumb, powerless yet self-important committee composed of anybody Quirk or Chaffee would appoint.
“What I’ve observed is that Jane Rands is willing to work with whomever is the Chief of Police for the Fullerton Police Department, and frankly JustUs, so am I”
Thank you, Fullerton Lover. You just revealed your true colors.
It is my opinion that when the man in charge of an organization has been shown to be a BIG PART of the problem of the past that he MUST GO in order for the organization to get a fresh start.
We have indications that Chief Hughes was part of the damage control after Kelly’s brutal and fatal beating. He was in charge that night, correct? He knew the cops rewrote their reports after viewing the video. He, in fact, admittedly watched the video multiple times after the incident. And he put those 6 cops back on the street after what he saw and after what we learned much later.
Why would you or Rands want to ‘work’ with such a man after he was promoted to acting chief? Your primary concern should be to find a way to oust him, not be his friend. I guess if Lucifer were in charge you would want to work with him too, eh?
I think your priorites are twisted, Fullerton Lover. That is my opinion. And I think you should try to persuade your candidate of choice to start calling a duck a duck. Like I said before. We want REAL HUMANS sitting on the Council dias. Not political hacks who play political games and are willing to climb into the proverbial political bed with those who have proven to be untrustworthy.
It is very sad what short memories human beings have and how easily they are manipulated into compromising their initial moral and intellectual beliefs by those who describe themselves as “leaders”. Very sad indeed.
“Compromise” is often a fuzzy word for “Sellout”.
Let me remind you.
You deserve what you tolerate.
“Then vote for Jane because you believe she might provide oversight of the cops herself. I agree with Sipowicz. Fullerton doesn’t need some dumb, powerless yet self-important committee composed of anybody Quirk or Chaffee would appoint.”
I posted earlier that the staffing that is being discussed with regards to the composition of a police oversight committee would be by geographical districts in Fullerton, and would not be by political appointment.
So now where’s your beef with a police oversight committee?
I never did hear your alternative to an oversight committee either?
I hear what your saying JustUs, however there is a difference between being a Dan Hughes supporter, and being a resident who is willing to work with whomever the city council and city manager choose to run the department.
In fact if the city council were to decide to oust the police and give the OCSD a shot, I would choose to work with whomever they brought to Fullerton also.
You’re doing a good job of arguing, but you don’t seem to get that we’ve entered into the stretch drive of the election, where different rules apply. Jane is running for City Council but is not Bruce, Travis, or Barry, therefore until Nov. 7 Jane is bad. Get it?
Being on a commission is no guarantee of anything; in fact, the odds are that you are a stooge.
At least Jane Rands is rolling up her sleeves and trying to do something about the problems that we’re having with the Fullerton Police, rather than throwing up her hands in the air like a little scared mouse.
I think Jaramillo would be a good choice. She was on the homeless committee. She is a humanitarian.She will be very fair and doesnt take any bulls*t . And a good all around person.
A former city employee who pals around with Loretta and Keller and Quirk.
Nuh uh. Not a chance.
She would be better than Kiger or Whitaker. Those boneheads!
And she spent years cleaning up after Tony’s rancid properties. That’s why Joe S. is aghast at her candidacy – a city employee was busy holding his boss accountable for foisting slums upon the community.
Yeah Kitty…
Is she the uncouth one with the frosted hair? She’s not even in the running !
hello, yes I am a musician and artist.
I do know how to manage money.
I was a successful (A paper)Loan Officer for a few years until I was laid off.
No on measure W
bad plan. what about about all the empty houses and businesses already in Fullerton?
what about the animals that live there and the humans that love that place?
Medicinal Marijuana Dispensaries in Fullerton Yes
I have a family member that lives in Fullerton but has to travel to Buena Park, Anaheim, LA to get their pain medication.
Fullerton should have LEGAL dispensaries because that is a lot of money that is leaving the city.
also compassion and understanding for the people with illnesses and injuries should be considered.
Disbanding the police No
if we bring in the sheriffs dept. that means more corruption, less accountability and more outside influence CONTROLLING the city. the councilmen who suggested looking into outsourcing the police are betrayers of the city.
what else do you want to know?
HAKIM THE DREAM 2012
I don’t suppose anyone here gives a flying frittata just how STUPID “top three” out of 12 candidates is. Many major U.S. cities used single transferable vote in the early 20th century, but it was later killed by the political monopolies that it threatened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote
https://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/polit/damy/articles/Brief%20History%20of%20PR.htm
Travis Kiger, Bruce Whitaker and Jane Rands…YES!!
That’s what my gut says too.
Then pray that one or two of them don’t go sideways like Sebourn did.
After what Joe said above about Rands being in Danny Hughes’ camp I amend my vote and mark her has a ‘potential’ vote depending upon her current opinion of Hughes. No one can say Hughes has done a great job at FPD with a straight face. He’s an insider who has shown his true colors. He backs his cops – not the citizens. And birds of a feather…….
Since you don’t live in Fullerton you can’t vote here. So who cares?
Jaramillo, Jaramillo, Jaramillo. Yes, Yes, Yes. Give the
Under dog a chance. She will be fair and a fighter for what the city needs.
Kitty Jaramillo will be fair and a fighter?
All I see in these photos of Kitty Jaramillo, are candidates that are already on the city council that support the public union employees,
as well as a guest appearance by former FPOA Vice President, and Fullerton Police Spokesman, Andrew Goodrich onstage at Steamers Cafe…
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kitty-Jaramillo-For-Council-2012/476384592374122?sk=photos_stream
I think the only 3rd candidate that would add to the conservative majority and stands for demanding justice and transparency from our police department is Levinson.
He also has a financial background…. a big plus while our city continues to sink into the abyss.
While I support Rands, I also think Levinson would be good. And I’ll be voting for Bruce and Travis. So much for me being a liberal huh.
Harpoon you’re right. But we might end up in the best of all possible worlds with a good council, a good chief, and then, a good, powerful, and non self-important committee.
Jane is the least “political hack” person out there IMO. I agree with FL. You work for change on multiple fronts. If you try to stay completely pure and idealistic what will happen is:
1. you lose your council majority
2. stuff becomes way worse than it would have been if you’d worked with the people you had.
Jt, your comment stinks of “sellout”, pal.
This has nothing to do with “idealism”. It’s about uprooting corruption and extricating the vermin who promote corruption. There should be NO compromise there. If you want to compromise on those points you are not a reformer. You are a status quo guy. Now go grab an x-large blue shirt for yourself.
I’ve been on top of this stuff since way before you pal. Don’t be calling me a sellout. You know not of what you speak.
Dude is a certifiable lunatic, JT. Just brush it off. He’s insulted everyone on this board at one point or another.
How do you prove a negative? Start a list of how she has used her intelligence.
Jane Rands has a B.S. from Cal Poly Pomona in Computer Science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Poly_Pomona_College_of_Engineering
Next question?
Don Bankhead has a Master of Public Administration degree. What’s your point?
How difficult do you think it is Fred for a student with veterans benefits to gain entrance to CSUF?
How about the Engineering program at Cal Poly Pomona?
You’re splitting hairs. Anyone who has the wherewithal to finish and get the diploma is good to go.
Hell if I know. They are both part of CSU, a vast diploma mill with 20+ campuses.
Now GEDs are garbage and CSU degrees also. Not much left in this world means anything to you. We will all bow down to you tea bagging ball licking self.
Any university that would confer a masters degree on that dimwit Bankhead is a disgrace.
Good start. She demonstrates that she has enough intellegence. Now, how exactly will she apply same to CC?
It matters little to me what a person’s value system is. What matters to me is their application of same to their daily lives/actions. That is, is there consistency between values and deeds. Something that we need in our electeds
Jane has been (and I assume continues to embrace) the green party). Fair enough. One of those values is nonviolence. Great!!!!!!
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One thing Jane avoids saying is that she works in aerospace for a company that many would call part of the military/industrial complex.
It is that sort of inconsistency that troubles me. Walk the talk!!!!
I’ve asked her to explain on her fb page only to be DELETED!!!!
I see that as problematic.
The military/industrial complex has come up with various solutions that allow more of our soldiers to live through combat. Military/industrial complex is nothing to be ashamed of.
It was a question of aligning one’S values with one’S ‘being’.
How does someone that align’s so strongly with the green party make their living working against those principles?
Walk the talk! That is directed to all electeds and wannabes not just the charming Ms. Rands.
That’s assuming that providing for the common defense is against those principles. If we can’t defend ourselves what’s the point of debating anything? It’s all moot.
Excellant point. I’d love to hear jane’s view.
I assume you can agree that aligning values with actions is to be admired regardless of those values?
I think it’s a hierarchy, kind of like what Abraham Maslow believed. I don’t think they exist in parallel. You have to fight for your freedom to debate before you actually can debate. I find myself compromising my views for what might be a greater good.
Values should guide actions, so I agree with you Anonymous.
It is if you’re Green. Combat is created by the military industrial complex. Hence the invasion of Iraq.
Jane, please explain!
I know that I may be an unknown to many of you, so this Thursday night I will be in the Beer Garden at the Fullerton Market. Maybe then you can find out who I am and decide if I am “worth consideration.”
Hopefully you will like what I have to say. I will be there after the Council intro session at city hall.
You best kiss Bushala’s ring if you want to be considered worthy of consideration around here.
His ass would be better.
You are better off kissing his ass.
Yeah Tony I said that three time and you didnt post it. I was….You are better off kissing his ass.
Caveat Tony,
I have warned you about this before!
Jewish setup orchestrated by by Golem, Gröfaz and OC Citizen is brewing in OJ at http://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2012/08/tony-bushala-owes-don-bankhead-a-muffin-basket/comment-page-1/#comment-202463
I hope that you are not too stupid to get in mud with Jewish mud man — Golem.
Golem should be banned from this forum because the only purpose of his drivel here is to provoke to collect an evidence to sue FFFF and Tony.
Trust me!
TONY IS A ASSHOLE, TONY IS AN ASSHOLE , TONY IS AN ASSHOLE, TONY IS AN ASSHOLE, TONY IS AN ASSHOLE.
“TONY IS A ASSHOLE, TONY IS AN ASSHOLE , TONY IS AN ASSHOLE, TONY IS AN ASSHOLE, TONY IS AN ASSHOLE”………. Hmmmmm
I hope that you have took deep breath between the “assholes” so your face wouldn’t be read, or have a heart attack, or miniature stroke and killing your valuable IQ cells in the brain, Onanymous Gröfaz.
“Onanymous Gröfaz.” That was good! Lot’s of Onanism going on around here!
What???? Jan Flory’s Dog isn’t running for city council? Or do we get he dog for free?? Someone has to keep her from kissing the Pat McPension ring!
You are about to be exposed!
Barry Levinson has my vote. He is intelligent , insightful, informed & not afraid to ask questions in order to come up with a viable solution.
Sorry everyone, but our intro meeting for council candidates lasted longer than expected. Beer Garden next week at 6pm. Come on by and let’s talk about what is happening in the city and how we can make things better.