94 Replies to “The Band Played On”

  1. Murder of CSF basketball coach linked to disgruntled LAPD cop Christopher Dorner.”Retired LAPD Capt. Randy Quan was a source of his firing and thus had to pay, the suspect allegedly wrote:

    I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own. I’m terminating yours …

    http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/02/christopher_jordan_dorner_irvine_murders_lapd_randy_quan_monica_quan.php

    http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/616/02/616_1360213161.pdf

  2. This is business as usual for the FJUHSD. Few people in this city realize the level of corruption that exists.

    Sex with students is a regular thing.

  3. Hmm..What do disgruntled ex-LAPD officers Dorner & Cicinelli have in common? Mabey if Officer Dorner was hired on at FPD like Cicinelli was he could have been re-habilitated.

  4. According to the online manifesto, Dorner reported an LAPD female Sgt. for kicking a mentally ill schizophrenic man while cuffed. He was fired for filing a “false report”.
    Sounds like more corruption going on within LAPD’s brass! “Don’t snitch or get fired”‘ is their motto to employees.
    I’m hopeful he continues to provide his own ‘street justice’ without murdering family members of those who did him wrong at LAPD.

  5. I wonder what former FPD officer Benjamin Lira has to say about this Dorner case? Both are considered ‘whistle blowers’ amongst their respective PDs.

    1. Management corruption happens everywhere but it shouldn’t happen in government work. But then again ask Hughes and Felz? They just hired an Officer who didn’t pass background but hey, his daughter plays on Felz’ daughter soccer team…… Just bcuz u don’t hear or see me doesn’t mean I’m not here! I’m doing great and looking forward to clearing my name in court, the right way!
      Until then,
      God Bless

      1. Mr Lira there is a right way to do things. The pen is mightier than the sword. The truth will stand on its own-it needs no legs only a voice.In reference to the recent hire do you know if there were there any policy violations with the hiring of the officer that didn’t pass background that you referred to?

        1. The proper people have been notified. Just know there’s at least a dozen current FPD employees who forward me information. I’ll have more to say in the coming weeks via my website/Facebook page!
          ShieldedByTheShield.com
          Like my page on FB

          Thank you, and please call me Ben.

          1. Thank you Ben. It is comforting to know that at least 10 percent of the department gives a damn about what is right.

          2. Its nice to know that you are well financed in your endevours.Sorry you had to join the Michael Sellers Sellout club when you went on disability.

            1. Mc Sellout is in a league of his own. What a pathetic way to end a career. He hadn’t a single word to anyone except gimme my money. At least Mr. Lira in his epiphany has had the guts to call attention the filth that has festered for years in that haunted house over there on Commonwealth. We live in interesting times.

              1. the haunted house on commonwealth that was awarded twice, 1999 and again 2008, for its “exemplary” commmunity policy program by Rusty Kennedy’s Orange County Human Relations Commission.
                How may ways can we all say Kelly thomas was beaten to death by fullerton PD, Veth Mam, Gouchener(?), Trevor Clarke, Edward Quinonez and these people are just the tip of the iceberg of civil rights abuses committed by fullerton PD?

                1. Lets hope Ron and Garo take this thing all the way or the iceberg will rear its head again. A leopard cannot change its spots.

      2. Mr. Lira,

        I admire and applaud you using your head and your heart instead of your hands to change things for the betterment of all personnel who reside within the FPD, as well as the families that reside here in Fullerton.

        I know none of this has been easy for you and your family, however when you look at the alternative ways that other officers have chosen to settle your case, I think we can all agree that we believe that yours is the most positive and heroic, as well as having the best chance of successfully bringing about positive changes.

      1. So many roads lead to Fullerton (ie, Corruption, LAPD, brutality, blue murder)
        +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

        Breaking News
        [BREAKING:] Christopher Jordan Dorner Manhunt: “WE ARE AT WAR”
        By Matt Coker Thu., Feb. 7 2013 at 9:48 AM

        “…With police agencies in four counties on high alert, and the FBI and U.S. Marshals enlisted to help in the search, we’re also dealing with the fog of war, as there were conflicting reports this morning whether two separate officer-involved shootings that were blocks apart in the South Bay this morning are connected to the Dorner case…”
        http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2013/02/christopher_jordan_dorner_lapd.php

  6. It use to be a joke to say “going postal” when someone vent nuts.

    Now it would be appropriate to joke to say “going capal” because COPs ara going nuts.

    They are killing innocent people in the cars resembling the one of X-COP Christoper Dorner in Torrance.

    This is classical case for self defense when you are shoot by the COPs who vent “capal”.

    1. LAPD has been one of the top most corrupt Police Depts. in the USA for a very very very long time. You can see it in the level of criminality in its society (City and people served).

  7. The manifesto- Who would have thought you would get promoted for covering up unethical behavior? That would never happen in Fullerton.

  8. I have a few questions?
    They claim he was in the navy..I only see photo’s of army-I know no navy officer,who would wear an army uniform.
    Why did he just post a ton of info on his f.b page?
    All with in the last week?
    The father of the mentally ill man, infact has stated that yes his son was kicked. SO how could this be a lie?
    I heard they found his badge- in a dumpster-then on a bus, which is it?
    Why would he have a badge that he would have already turned in upon being fired?
    If it his badge, where did it come from?
    Why is no one even addressing the fact LAPD shot two ladies this morning , because the car matched? Why would they open fire on 2 asian ladies throwin newspapers-hardly 270 pound black man?

    1. You cant ask questions. You must be a conspiracy theorist. Welcome to the world of disinformation where the government controlled media is nothing more than a psy-op. With the end of the analog broadcast they have ushered in a digital world in which we WILL NEVER KNOW if anything we see on the idiot box is actually real.

      1. Slanted media gets really bad ratings, and are dying off. The world is changing.

        Politics is often an elaborate deception.

  9. “Why is no one even addressing the fact LAPD shot two ladies this morning , because the car matched? Why would they open fire on 2 asian ladies throwin newspapers-hardly 270 pound black man?”

    That is what i want to know, I heard it early this am and not a single thing I now read has these details nor speaks of the event. These journalists must go to the Lou Ponsi school of journalism…make the PD look good at any cost, omissions, lies, whatever it takes.

    Sounds like LAPD is just as corrupt as FPD.

    1. Like hunters in the field, they often shoot at anything that moves. Not long ago almost all Policemen never even needed to ever fire their weapon.

    2. “Why is no one even addressing the fact LAPD shot two ladies this morning , because the car matched?”……. Hmmmmm

      I did in my post above.

      What I do not understand is that people in general are such COP lovers in this country. Unbelievable!

      Everywhere in the world the COPs are pigs except here where we are calling the murderers the “peace officers? Unbelievable!

      Are there people in this country capable of learning?

      You do not need media to tell you what is going on.

      Never believe what the media is telling you because the COPs are lying.

      Dorner is living his 2nd amendment dreams.

  10. I certainly hope Garo Mardirossian gets a hold of those two innocent Asian ladies that were victims of ‘Cowardly Trigger Happy’ policing in Torrance this morning. He will make certain this gets heavy media attention while suing the holy crap out of LAPD and Los Angeles. Mistaken identity my ass!

    1. Its not like they are usually your friend! (LAPD)
      A long history of corruption, criminality, and brutality, has its price and consequences. Just look at the long faces and anger in Fullerton, on all sides of all the issues in recent political view.

    2. Garo should cause he is getting “ZERO” from Ron Thomas maybe just the $10,000 that Ron owes him when he had to pay back the money he stole.

    3. That blue pickup was riddled with bullets probably 50 or more. It is by the grace of God those women walked away virtually unscathed. It is truly a miracle. I bet those officers are thankful as well.

  11. This reminds me the “FIRST BLOOD” flick

    View the latest pictures, photos and images from First Blood – John J. Rambo is a former United States Special Forces soldier who fought in Vietnam and won the Congressional Medal of Honor, but his time in Vietnam still haunts him. As he came to Hope, Washington to visit a friend, he was guided out of town by the Sheriff William Teasel who insults Rambo, but what Teasel does not know that his insult angered Rambo to the point where Rambo became violent and was arrested, as he was at the county jail being cleaned, he escapes and goes on a rampage through the forest to try to escape from the sheriffs who want to kill him. Then, as Rambo’s commanding officer, Colonel Samuel Trautman tries to save both the Sheriff’s department and Rambo before the situation gets out of hand.

  12. Benjamin Lira :
    Management corruption happens everywhere but it shouldn’t happen in government work. But then again ask Hughes and Felz? They just hired an Officer who didn’t pass background but hey, his daughter plays on Felz’ daughter soccer team…… Just bcuz u don’t hear or see me doesn’t mean I’m not here! I’m doing great and looking forward to clearing my name in court, the right way!
    Until then,
    God Bless

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The stakes in government are unbelievable,
    For every dollar a company might invest in Political Lobbyist, 220 dollars can be made. 22,000% profit, there might even be a very short timeframe involved.

  13. So it’s not lost on me that this crazy Fucker Dorner, troubles started when he tried to report a fellow officers abuse against a “defenseless, homeless man” For that he was fired.

    The machine ate him up and spit him out led by the POA.

    While not defending killing people as a form of retribution, I certainly am humming a tune:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3qvosHHcWc

    FUCK THE POLICE UNIONS!

    1. I’m surprised that the FPD doesn’t have Hampton out on foot patrol today.

      Two birds with one stone.

  14. Thanks for the post Tony. I researched the story more and found this confirming what you said: “According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field-training officer, saying in the course of an arrest she had kicked a suspect who was a schizophrenic with severe dementia”

    I guess Fullerton isn’t the only PD where scummy cops pick on the mentally ill and homeless.

  15. @ FL: I wonder how many more millions the FPD will pay out in civil rights violation’s lawsuits against Hampton before the geniuses in charge get rid of him.

  16. “Women delivering newspapers in Torrance shot in manhunt for ex-cop”

    Wow! Great job of keeping everyone safe from a dangerous ex-cop guys. That makes three innocent people shot by Dorner and two by the cops looking for him, if anyone is keeping score.

  17. Kenton Hampton :I was sort of surprised that the FPD brass didn’t have me out on foot patrol today?

    they did…you asshat. Nice Toyota camry theyhave you in, still have the lame black truck that is lifted,and those fucked up rims, yes we know when your in. Funny how you park in the mental health facility parking lot-finally you have done something to get help. It is a call for help isnt it?

  18. Tony Serra :So it’s not lost on me that this crazy Fucker Dorner, troubles started when he tried to report a fellow officers abuse against a “defenseless, homeless man” For that he was fired.
    The machine ate him up and spit him out led by the POA.
    While not defending killing people as a form of retribution, I certainly am humming a tune:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3qvosHHcWc
    FUCK THE POLICE UNIONS!

    what happened to POBAR? they use it as a tool. You want to know about a cop they scream POBAR, they want to out one of their own..its called media coverage. The LAPD, are scared-because Dornan is bringing to light what every black person and hispanic can tell you, they are corrupt, the LAPD- always have been.

  19. Benjamin Lira :The proper people have been notified. Just know there’s at least a dozen current FPD employees who forward me information. I’ll have more to say in the coming weeks via my website/Facebook page!ShieldedByTheShield.comLike my page on FB
    Thank you, and please call me Ben.

    Ben I will give you advice, you can take to the bank. Get the fuck away from GARO and RON, the minute you do that, you will have citizens assisting you. You have aligned yourself with a fake father. If you think you will get anything anywhere through GARO and or RON – just understand the running joke is DAN and RONs love affair. You are being used as a tool. GARO AND RON THOMAS are ambulance chasers, and should be treated accordingly, RON NEVER WAS A COP. Further more shame on you for proppin up this scam.

    1. Has he publicly said he’s alligned with them? I agree. He will get much more credibility and more people will listen if he has his own team. I think the problem will be money and his termination is legit. He knows it. He went about this all backwards. Probably due to no legal team.

      1. I’m not aligned with them! I have my own attorneys. I just made sure “they” knew what questions to ask and who to ask. I met with “them” once and confirmed Hughes was lying to them, which I already knew, but I wanted confirmation.

  20. I worry about everyone involved in the anti FPD case. Always have. I always thought one of the cops would go nuts just like Dorner with a full list of victims. Ill keep hoping they don’t but this could give someone ideas. Could you imagine? Wild.

      1. “…The order may seem unusually high, but gun experts I talked to said it is not necessarily unusual and simply reflects a long-running practice by DHS and law enforcement agencies to use any remaining budget surplus on items routinely used and that would not be called into question. The idea being that if an agency does not use its entire budget in expenditures, the government will lower its budget the following year…”

  21. LAPD is corupt from Beck all the way down the line. That’s why Villarigosa chose him, he does exactly what the Mayor wants. No more impounding illegal’s cars, per the Mayor. Give the illegals driver’s licenses, per the Mayor! He’s just a dirty little kept boy like Hughes, cause he wants to be a Chief!

  22. truthseeker :
    Lets hope Ron and Garo take this thing all the way or the iceberg will rear its head again. A leopard cannot change its spots.

    Won’t happen. Ca-ching. The cash drawer flies open. There is no was Doug FitzFlory will let any Culture of Corruption dirty laundry air out.

  23. Isn’t it time for a new post? This one about the band is hardly a story as not many details have been released.

    1. “We look at the police differently from the way you look at the police,” said Hodari Sababu, 56, a tour guide who has lived in the South Central section of Los Angeles for 40 years. “In your community, the police is there to protect and serve; in my community, the police are there to harass and to insult and to kill if they get a chance.”

      1. “Black people feel like we’ve been targets for so long, we’ve always felt that the L.A.P.D. was corrupt,” said Kim Pace, 45, a bus driver from Carson. “So for us, it’s like, O.K., they pushed him over the edge.”

        Mr. Sababu, the tour guide, said the sight of a police officer kicking a suspect was not uncommon in the history of South Central Los Angeles. “Here you have an officer that’s actually standing up for a citizen and saying, ‘That’s wrong, why are you kicking that guy in the face?’ and for his efforts, he’s fired,”

  24. 1/29 Transient Problem – A man is pulling out trash from one of the cans, surrounding himself with it and lighting small pieces of it on fire in front of the business on 1801 W. Orangethorpe at 8:01 p.m.

    1/30 Transient Problem – A caller is worried about a man in a trench coat who keeps walking into traffic on Commonwealth Avenue and Pomona Avenue at 8:04 a.m. She’s afraid he wants to get hit.

    1/31 Transient Problem – A caller “insists” that police move along a man sleeping on a bus bench on Orangethorpe Avenue and Harbor Boulevard, before hanging up the phone at 6:18 a.m. An officer went to the scene and advised George “that someone doesn’t want him there,” but wrote that otherwise, everything at the scene was “okay.”

    2/1 Transient Problem – A naked female who walked into a residence in the Palm Gardens Apartments refuses to leave at 8:50 a.m. Police arrived, and reported that they quartered off a “contaminated area” and consulted the apartment manager at the complex on 300 W. Orangethorpe Avenue.

    2/2 Transient Problem – A Fed Ex employee says two transients are sleeping in the computer area at the store on 444 N. Harbor Blvd. at 5:59 a.m. They were counseled and moved along.

    2/2 Man Down – Police were called to Lemon Street and Orangefair Avenue after a witness saw a man in a suit slumped over on the southwest corner at 5:22 a.m. An officer arrived and reported that the man, who he described as having possible issues with sanity, was merely chiseling gum off of the concrete.

    2/2 Drunk – An intoxicated 50-year-old woman may have just urinated on herself in front of the store on 312 N. Euclid Street at 3:05 p.m.

    2/2 Transient Problem – A gray-haired woman is begging customers for money on 2200 N. Harbor Blvd. at 2:35 p.m.

    2/2 Transient Problem – Two transients are harassing people and refusing to leave St. Phillips Church on 23 Pine Street at 1:33 p.m.

    2/2 Transient Problem – A man is sleeping behind the business on 320 N. Euclid Street at 1 p.m. He was gone by the time police arrived, so they told the caller to let them know if the subject returned.

    2/2 Transient Problem – A caller says a man with a long gray beard who carries a blanket returns daily to harass employees at Carpe Diem on 115. S. Harbor Blvd. at 8:34 a.m.

    2/3 Battery – A 56-year-old man told a nurse in a local hospital he was assaulted by a white man in his late 20s near 1137 S. Harbor Blvd. The victim, who ended up with a dislocated shoulder, said the suspect had dark hair, stood about 5’9”, and said he may have been a transient.

    2/3 Transient Problem – A caller asked police to move along two transients behind the business on 340 E. Commonwealth Avenue, and to get them to clean up their mess at 1:20 p.m. and again at 4 p.m.

    2/3 Transient Problem – The white man with long hair who’s been banned from the shopping center for fighting with employees is back near the loading dock on 1100 S. Harbor Blvd.

    2/3 Suspicious Person – A white woman in her 30s dropped her pants, pooped in a neighbor’s yard and stole a flag from another neighbor’s home then left the scene headed towards S. Brookhurst Road and W. Southgate Avenue at 12:01 p.m.

    1. What’s your point? You can do the same thing with the homeless in Los Angeles, only you’ll have pages and pages of complaints. Obviously, it’s a FPD cop who’s posting the Transient problems here on this blog. Have some respect for the homeless, and go out and do some real police work.

      1. There is a problem. (eating crow) the FPD does help. Until you have a problem with the homeless, you just don’t understand…..Harmless no they are not.
        Drive by Starbuck’s (orangethorpe & brookhurst)at 6am, where they light up their crack pipes. Yep, saw it when I was driving to work…..now what anon?

  25. yup, this is how it is in every orange county city, behind every shopping center, business, trail, park.Go out and drive behind a strip mall, park, railroad tracks, freeways, underpasees after 12and they are there. They choose to live in their own filfth then have the dignity to survive, just try. There are others, lots in motorhomes that include famulies, down on hard times. Most lay very low and dont want to draw attention on themseves but others dont give a fuc. Sex offenders running amok everywhere that are homeless due to restrictions. I mean like 50 in a business park, gone at sunrise and back after 10 pm.6 days of harmless transients is right, but theres a lot out there with warrants and will steal anything not bolted to the ground. build the new north oc shelter in the buena park transit center, under freeway perfect

  26. I just finally read Mr. Dorners manifesto and I must state I would never assult or hurt another human being , but I think he has some valid points. It is totally unfortuate he killed that young couple since they didnt have anything to do with his situation. Based on my life experiences growing up in Fullerton, my observation is that basically all cops are ultimately killers. It may take a while before they actually make a kill but there are more than enough opportunities to inflict injury and suffering to innocent citizens. As this manhunt unfolds, these bully cops are really scared cowards, shooting innoccent asian women. What cowards- yeah they are big men and women when they are bulling other people but when the table is turned, they are scared little boys. When dealing with the Fullerton police be very afraid- These men and women have given up their humanity in exchange for a blood lust to inflict pain and suffering to other weaker souls . Evidently the situation is exactly the same @ LAPD and every other police agency. The policeman is not your friend.

    1. Lira is a moron! No one supports him or his agenda! He thought he was going to stop Hughes from making chief! How did that work out?? 5-0!! No one cares what a digruntled ex cop had to say! He did it all to himself! He wants to blame everyone else except himself!! Lira look in the mirror and except responsibility for your own undoing! You know there is no corruption in the FPD! If there was and you had evidence you would have shown your hand by now! Please go away, enjoy your life as a black jack dealer at slots oh fun and leave the rest of Fullerton pd and the citizens alone!

      1. take a pitiful subject who feels like he was bullied when he was in elementary school. Let him have a very well paying job as an law enforcement officer so he can take revenge on the society that bullied him.Then take his job from him which was the sum of his identity.YOu now have a very angry subject who will have a very difficult time integrating back into society. Dorner is an example of this. He claims he was bullied at his school at Downey Christian elem.Was this childhood problem his motive for finding a job in which to dominate others. What now that his very identity is taken from him?

  27. The initial mismanaged encounter by FPD that caused a fullerton homeless man to die was the very thing with very similar nature that caused LAPS Christopher Dorner to complain about and be fired for complaining. A Skitzophrenic man who was sitting quietly doing nothing but staring in the sky was asked an unreasonable command without explanation. An officer then put his hand on him denying the rights that every basic human posses.When the “suspect” got angry, which would be normal for a emotionaly distrurbed private type person who had helping hands prod him, he was taken down with a tazer. http://i.imm.io/VDlh.png.http://i.imm.io/VDkL.png… If anything can be learned from recent events, it would be that fullerton is not the only department that needs investigation and retraining. Hopefuly the recent events in the public spotlight will bring a public outcry loud enough to say enough is enough.
    Lets hire officers that have good recomendations from their teachers & fellow community members.

  28. Benjamin Lira :I’m not aligned with them! I have my own attorneys. I just made sure “they” knew what questions to ask and who to ask. I met with “them” once and confirmed Hughes was lying to them, which I already knew, but I wanted confirmation.

    Mr Lira,
    We are completely aware of the nonsense that goes on in that PD, if you need the likes of some ambulance chaser, who never cared about his kid until a payday was announced- seriously we all know the PD is corrupt, long before Kelly. ANd now they have purchased the city council, look at the results in the observer- theyhave posted the monies given to the politicians, the UNION PAID for this election, makes me laugh the very same people who complain about tushala, but do the very same thing- the devil is in the details, and all roads lead back to SHAWN FUCKIN NELSON, fuck that retarded fat sweat hog, he needs to go.

  29. budget therapist :take a pitiful subject who feels like he was bullied when he was in elementary school. Let him have a very well paying job as an law enforcement officer so he can take revenge on the society that bullied him.Then take his job from him which was the sum of his identity.YOu now have a very angry subject who will have a very difficult time integrating back into society. Dorner is an example of this. He claims he was bullied at his school at Downey Christian elem.Was this childhood problem his motive for finding a job in which to dominate others. What now that his very identity is taken from him?

    So we are talking about every goodrich, every rincon, every a hole that becamse a cop, youa re referring to the entire PD, every one of those geeky dicks were hassled, ASK Ramos, in this area he was & is truely despised, he was and is a pussy. SO we called him out on it, so what. He and his pals, goodrich are lame fat fucks that couldnt make it in the real world, so they became cops and are doing a stellar job as of today..lol

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