Moonbeam’s Money is Coming to Fullerton
That’s right. Governor Brown just announced that he is personally raising money for Fullerton. Not IN Fullerton, mind you.
And well, it’s not for the people of Fullerton either.
Brown is inviting his lobbyist pals to a $4,400 Sacramento dinner in order to raise money to defend Fullerton’s hapless Senator Josh Newman and the car tax Newman helped secure. You know, the one that he recently dumped on Fullerton motorists (along with the rest of California) because the answer is Sacramento to government malfeasance and bad behavior is always MOAR Money.
Brown is headlining a fundraiser on May 23 at de Vere’s Irish Pub in Sacramento, billed as an event to support Newman’s reelection campaign. Donors are asked to give up to $4,400 to Newman’s 2020 Senate campaign committee, although the money can be shifted to fighting a recall measure if one qualifies.
Give to “Newman’s 2020 campaign committee, although…”. Isn’t that cute? It’s almost as if this isn’t specifically FOR the recall. Once he’s out of office maybe Senator Newman can save some of those $4,400 donations to buy himself another posh vacation in Saint Lucia after the recall is over. If he’s lucky maybe he’ll have the bad news before his trip this time around.
It’s always amazing to watch politicians and their lobbyist friends soak up booze while reaching for their wallets for the sole purpose of being able to continue to pick our wallets clean.
For those of you who cannot afford a $4,400 posh dinner and are actually impacted by this new highway robbery masquerading as a transportation tax feel free to sign the petition to recall Senator Newman. You can pick up and sign the petition if you’re a registered voter in District 29 this Thursday between 2-6pm (1400-1800). KFI’s John & Ken as well as KOGO’s Carl DeMaio will be live broadcasting from the ARCO Gas Station at 519 S. Harbor Blvd here in Fullerton.
*all proceeds from Newman 2020 will be diverted to high speed rail.
**proceeds from Recall Newman will also be diverted to high speed rail.
Wait. You’re criticizing a Sacramento fundraising event to defend our State Senator from a recall organized by a guy from San Diego?
All this is really ironic considering Josh Newman had to defeat an Irvine carpetbagger to gain a chance to run in the top two run off election, which he won with a majority vote from Fullerton voters BTW.
I rather see outside money defending the candidate supported by Fullerton voters than outside money being spent to elect an outsider or worse, unseat the person we wholeheartedly elected to represent Fullerton and others in the district.
I think he’s commenting about Brown’s rich lobbyist pals throwing money around while Brown pillages Fullerton’s middle and lower classes with the extremely regressive tax.
“That’s right. Governor Brown just announced that he is personally raising money for Fullerton. Not IN Fullerton, mind you.”
Yes. This.
Sacramento always has plenty of money to spend to fund their fight to rob us blind.
Carl DeMaio being the organizer doesn’t matter to me as he’s not a candidate. Newman spent plenty of outside the district money to get his seat and now DeMaio is organizing plenty of outside money against him. That’s how most campaigns work.
We didn’t “wholeheartedly” support Newman. He won by a razor thin margin and after weeks of ballot counting.
As for supporting Newman? Had he told us he was going to balk at fiscal responsibility and just vote to tax us further into oblivion I, and many others I know alone, would never have voted for him.
Why should I support somebody who clearly doesn’t support me? I’m a citizen, not a masochist.
You are wrong. Fullerton DID wholeheartedly vote for Newman over Chang. You can access the statement of vote submitted by the OC Registrar of voters to the CA Secretary of State for the 2016 General Election.
Of the 68,301 registered voters in Fullerton, 656 ballots were cast in the State Senate District 29 election if which 405 were cast for Newman and only 207 for Chang. That’s twice as many people who voted for Newman over Chang in Fullerton.
That’s about as wholehearted as you can get in an election.
Granted YOU will want to quibble that voter participation was low. But the reality is that this was rather high participation in comparison to Senator Huff’ who was re-elected in 2012 even though the Democrat’s candidate Greg Diamond received 77 votes to Huff’s 66 from the 153 Fullerton voters who bothered to register their preference.
I apologize. My number were really wrong. Those were the early totals.
Here are the correct numbers for Fullerton:
2016 Newman 25,585 Chang 23,726
Newman handily won 52% of the vote in Fullerton.
And had he run on raising our taxes he would have lost.
Be real. No one runs a campaign advertising a goal of raising taxes. However, had Newman run on fixing the roads, yes I do think it would have increased his vote totals.
You ran for city council. What was the number one issue you encountered? It was likely the poor quality of the roads. And how did Fitzgersld get reelected? By taking credit for and claiming she was going to fix the roads.
The hard truth is, anyone running on fixing the roads in Fullerton was just talking out their keister without identifying a new funding source. Turns out the most maddening thing about the gas tax is that it will enable Ftitzgerald to keep her campaign promise.
And here are the correct numbers in Fullerton for 2012.
Diamond 20,004 to Huff’s 24,242.
Huff beat Diamond by 2 percentage points more than Newman’s win over Chang.
Thst’s right, Jane. I hope the signature gatherers will all be legit on this one. I’ll be working on the other side this time. This recall is a farce. The last one was something we took pride in, we were cleaning up corruption, negligence and criminal activity. Where is any of that happening with Newman? His vote was in keeping with his policies. That’s not recall worthy, it’s just sour grapes.
” we were cleaning up corruption, negligence and criminal activity.”
The gas and car taxes are meant to hide the negligence and corruption in Sacramento, get it?
Then your target is the Governor.
You are in position to tell these people who their target is.
I did not say the San Diego guy was a candidate. What I did say is that he doesn’t live in Fullerton anymore than Governor Brown does, noting the hypocrisy of your gripe.
My gripe is that he’s raising money so he can continue to rob us via taxation.
That he’s doing it in the LaLa Land of Sacramento is just icing.
Ok, so it’s not about money from outside Fullerton because “Newman spent plenty of outside the district money to get his seat” when you voted for him in November.
It’s about your perception that you are being “robbed” because you will have to pay $10 a month to make your steets, roads, and highways safe.
I think you need to change the headline and opening paragraph of your story to “Man Feels Robbed by Gas Tax Increase.” See, it’s about you and not Governor Brown or the person you elected for State Senate.
No, it’s because he’s taking $200 or more from families because he refuses to trim pensions, high speed rail, or any of the 50,000 things the state wastes money on instead of fixing the roads.
Because there will ALWAYS be people like you who shrug off another tax increase as “affordable”. That’s why we’ll always approve another school bond, another Junior college bond, another we forgot to fix the dams bond, the bridges are falling down tax, and this ludicrous gas tax that won’t make anything better over the next decade.
20 years from now, you’ll still have bad roads. Nothing has changed, because you simply keep paying the bill.
You have made a number of incorrect assumptions about how vote and what I do and do not support. I did not vote for high speed rail. I do not vote for bonds. I have not ever had an opportunity to vote directly for or against any resolution to the pension problems in this state but I woukd like to see leadership step up to correct these problems.
I would appreciate you staying on topic and not incorrectly attacking me.
The topic of the post is about the Govenor holding a fundraiser to combat a recall effort against our state senator.
The topic of the post is taxes. You made a rather snarky comment concerning a meager $10, which is just a weak.
Josh Newman is being recalled because he’d rather tax poor and middle class families than clean up his party’s mess. Talk about that.
I recognize your concern for working poor people in our state. However, I think you will find Josh Newman’s positions in that regard to be more inline with your own than his predecessors or the failed Republican challenger, Ling Ling Chang.
Moreover, I fear that you are being duped into believing the goal of this recall is for the working poor. It is clearly (party blinders off) an opportunistic attempt to unseat the Democrat who is blamed/ credited (depending on your perspective) for tipping the State Senate to a Democratic super-majority.
The recall is all about partisan politics. I wish there was as much fervor over the needs of working poor people in this state.
He’s better than other shitty politicians who haven’t raised our taxes?
Color me all different shades of I don’t care.
Tax first, ask questions later. He’s got to go.
I’m supporting the recall. Why? I’m certainly not a (R).
Because mathematically I’m working poor and Newman voted to tax me more because Sacramento doesn’t care about any of us and will never hold themselves to account. Ever.
The 63,000+ people who will sign this petition will do so out of anger at being further ripped off and not simply owing to “partisan politics”. And the partisan riff is pretty funny coming from somebody who once chastised me for correctly identifying their party affiliation.
I didn’t say you were a Republican, Josh Ferguson. I said the anonymous commenter “The Taxman Cometh” was being duped into supporting one side of a partisan battle. But it appears you have been enlisted as well.
What do you care where he vacations? It’s on his own dime, not yours. He did well, and can afford a nice place to take his family. At least he hasn’t signed up for the lobbyist fest in Hawai’i like his predecessor, “Aloha” Bob Huff.
Bob Huff is terrible. I would sign a recall petition for him too, especially if he stuck California’s poor with a regressive car tax.
I don’t care where he vacations. My point is that the working class that he voted to rob can’t afford such luxuries.
Sounds like the beginnings of a socialist revolution. Go get ’em, Josh Ferguson! But I think you’ be got the wrong man.
Correction, “But I think you’ve got the wrong man.”
What in god’s name are you even talking about?
It was the (D) Controlled Assembly that just voted to allow Communists to work for the State. There’s your socialist Revolution right there.
I’m talking about your rhetoric.
And, no. McCarthyism is passé.
Ho hum.
Um, I can’t afford to take a Caribbean vacation on St. Lucia. Can you pronounce the words “limousine liberal?”
It doesn’t matter who it is getting recalled, its that the people are fed up with higher gas and registration taxes . Yesterdays taxes have not seemed to fix todays roads, so raise it taxes more? Theres no common sense at the capital. We can’t recall everyone so we were hoping Newman would bring new ideas. Why not go after him. Fullerton recalled 3 city council memebers mainly for their silence, and I believe Fullerton is better for it. Newman wasn’t saying that he was voiting for higher taxes during his campaign, so now face the music.
Let’s be clear about who can sign and who can collect signatures:
Valid signatures
Each person who signs the petition must be a registered voter in the jurisdiction of the official against whom the recall attempt is being pursued. If the signer is not such a registered voter, his or her signature will not be counted.
See law: California Code Division 11, Chapter 1
Circulator restrictions
A recall petition circulator must be a registered voter in the jurisdiction of the official against whom a recall is sought. Each petition form must contain a declaration signed by the circulator that he or she is such a registered voter.
See law: California Code Division 11, Chapter 1, Article 3, Section 11046
Also, you must honestly describe what it is that you’re soliciting signatures for. Telling people to sign if they want to remove the recent gas tax set by Brown is a falsified statement, 100%. You must be clear it’s to recall someone.
And that’s why this recall is an abuse of the very thing it’s supposed to do. You guys are making a mockery of it. It’s not a catch-all last resort to get somebody, anybody when something doesn’t go your way.
Here’s the truth, Jane rands: Brown has our money, lots of it apparently, to build the moronic train to oblivion. But that doesn’t leave enough for CalTRANS to mismanage elsewhere.
There were two Dems who drew for the short straw: Newman lost.
HSR was approved by 53% of CA voters in 2008. I fail to see how Newman is responsible for that vote.
1) Are you implying that the gas tax will be used to backfill inaccessible prop 1a bond funds for HSR? Please state your evidence and let’s talk about that. You might be surprised to find Newman as an ally to help ensure the gas tax monies will go toward our roads and not HSR.
2) By your statement, “Two Dems drew for the short straw,” are agreeing that this is a partisan matter and not a recall based on any inkling of malfeasance on the part of Newman?
Malfeasance isn’t necessary for a recall. You sound like Dick Ackerman. Or Molly McClanahan.
What I’m saying is only one Dem was permitted to vote no. And it wasn’t Newman.
No one said Newman was responsible for HSR although I bet he supports it still – like all the other Dems in the Legislature.
HSR has been a con ever since it was approved. The future funds to build the monstrosity have to come from somewhere, don’t they, and we can rule out Congress? I wonder where Jerry will find the money.
YES. The “Gas tax” will be used for high speed rail. Newman was given “assurances” that SB1 and ACA5 would protect the funding but it’s in not so plain English that that won’t be the case. I was able to rip that stupid ACA5 to shreds in about 15 minutes.
Newman isn’t an ally or he would have written, or co-authored, a bullet (train) proof amendment to truly secure funding and he did not do that. I asked him, to his face, if the money would be used for other projects and he balked. I brought up projects like ARTIC and the grade separations to get HSR from Fullerton to Anaheim and he equivocated. At best ACA5 is the Prop42 Redux and at worst it’s just a feel good piece of “Stop! Or I’ll Yell Stop Again!” from Sacramento to try and assuage our anger at once again being ripped off from afar by people who won’t be hurt by the taxes they implement.
Like it or not Newman DID vote to further pick our pockets and if he was an ally he would have damn well DEMANDED to know where in the world all of our money, $100BILLION over the last ten years alone, has gone since it obviously hasn’t gone to the transportation for which it was earmarked. His response? Yeah, he wasn’t here then and he wants to look forward. So don’t find the problems, don’t fix the problems, just tax the working class and working poor more in the hopes that maybe Sacramento will spend the money properly this time. Even though we haven’t bothered to find out what went wrong every other time. Because trust us.
NO.
I will not trust him. I will not trust Sacramento. It is not the role of the citizen to trust the government. If that’s the best he’s got then he deserves to go because that’s weak sauce of the highest order. #SorryNotSorry
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them anywhere.
I do not like green eggs and ham.
I do not like them, Sam-I-am.
Interesting exchange between Jane and Josh, both passionate about their beliefs. Bottom line, we’re being taxed to death. There is absolutely NO accountability in Sacramento for anything. Newman obviously doesn’t get it. He was given an opportunity and like most politicians, drank the cool-aid. We all know how we’ve been screwed over by the pension madness locally, regionally and state, which has been where all the money is going. So yeah, same old thing – tax the people to pay for govt. mismanagement of funds. I’m a registered Republican for fiscal reasons, but also align with some of the Democrat platform in areas of civil rights and equality. I’m actually probably more Libertarian. It’s very difficult to stand behind one party. If we can ever get away from a two-party system, there may be some hope. But I digress. As far as I’m concerned, all of Sacramento politicians need to be replaced. I really wish the voters would wise up. They’re absolutely draining us and we get nothing for it. And I have no doubt that the Grassy Knoll, who was the first to comment, is right on…..if that ridiculous high-speed rail is ever built (which I doubt that it will be), there will be no one left in CA to ride the damn thing. What a fricken waste!! Sorry, I digressed again. Between the high speed rail and the pensions, there is nothing left. Drives me crazy…..oh wait, we won’t be able to afford to ‘drive’ anymore either. I’m not saying anything new….and does my opinion really matter…..no. But I enjoyed the discussion between two passionate people who are well known for their views. And since I don’t fit into any one box, thought I’d chime in, albeit I’m not clever with words or antidotals like others. The pensions and high speed rail are EVERYONE’s problem, regardless of party affiliation. We should all start thinking about which state we want to move to, because California is only going to get worse as long as the current leadership is at the helm.
Recall…looking forward to John & Ken back in Fullerton…a good place to get some justice & change
A self-described “right-of-center” blog is calling bullshit on your recall.
https://ocpolitical.com/2017/05/09/sb1-and-a-ruse-for-a-recall/#comments
And they’re wrong. Who cares?
I don’t know who “Brenda McCune” is but she says:
“Recalls are expensive and an extraordinary measure to be used in extreme circumstances of wrongdoing.”
Hmm. I don’t know what an “extreme” circumstance of wrongdoing is but it sure sounds like committing a crime, which presumably is what we have laws for.
Recall opponents are always cynically trying make it apply to cases where the law should have intervened. Fortunately, that’s not what the recall was created for. Yes, recalls are expensive. So are $50 billion tax hikes.
Send the hatemongers John and Ken back to their own neighborhood and stay out of mine.
I’m glad to see Jerry Brown have the guts to support Josh against the Right Wing wackos.
By the way where is that coward Ed Royce ?
I hope the signature gatherers will all be legit on this one. I’ll be working on the other other this time. This recall is a farce. The last one was something we took pride in, we were cleaning up corruption, negligence and criminal activity. Where is any of that happening with Newman? His vote was in keeping with his policies. That’s not recall worthy, it’s just sour grapes. If you really have issues, head out to Jurupa Valley tomorrow (Friday) and take it up with Brown himself. He’ll be in town to distribute funds back into four Riverside county cities. Go figure.
What is a “legit” signature gatherer? The law says they need to be registered to vote in CA. That’s it.
Also, your definition of “recall-worthy” is subjective and soon you will see that about 80,000 people disagree with you.
Circulator restrictions
A recall petition circulator must be a registered voter in the jurisdiction of the official against whom a recall is sought. Each petition form must contain a declaration signed by the circulator that he or she is such a registered voter.
See law: California Code Division 11, Chapter 1, Article 3, Section 11046
That rule has been struck down as unconstitutional in three separate federal appeals courts. It does not apply.
“His vote was in keeping with his policies.”
Then he might have been kind enough to state that when he ran for office – instead of running as an outsider. “His policies” turned out to be identical to Jerry Brown’s and Kevin Deleon’s. That a sort of deception that IS recall worthy. A lot of Republicans – myself included – voted for Newman because he postured as an independent voice. And it was just a posture. I should have known better. Now I do.
(This comment was meant to post here, not as a reply)
Let’s be clear about who can sign and who can collect signatures:
Valid signatures
Each person who signs the petition must be a registered voter in the jurisdiction of the official against whom the recall attempt is being pursued. If the signer is not such a registered voter, his or her signature will not be counted.
See law: California Code Division 11, Chapter 1
Circulator restrictions
A recall petition circulator must be a registered voter in the jurisdiction of the official against whom a recall is sought. Each petition form must contain a declaration signed by the circulator that he or she is such a registered voter.
See law: California Code Division 11, Chapter 1, Article 3, Section 11046
Also, you must honestly describe what it is that you’re soliciting signatures for. Telling people to sign if they want to remove the recent gas tax set by Brown is a falsified statement, 100%. You must be clear it’s to recall someone.
The residency requirement is unconstitutional and therefor irrelevant.
Can you cite your source and amendment code (s), please?
That is 100% correct.
“Telling people to sign if they want to remove the recent gas tax set by Brown is a falsified statement, 100%.”
No it isn’t. The Legislature can revoke your tax. A recall will be a strong inducement for Dems in marginal districts to reconsider your tax.
You can add that and any Fluff you want. But you can’t mislead people into thinking they’re signing something other than a recall petition. If you were part of the last recall, why are you afraid to use your name?
His name is Bob or Tim. I forget which. What difference does it make?
“You can add that and any Fluff you want.”
Excellent! Thank you for your permission!
Why are you afraid to use your name? “Sherri” could be anyone. Let’s have that last name.
You first! bwahahahaha Anyone involved with the last recall knows who I am simply by my first name. Oh wait, I used SherBear when I commented on FFFF. It stemmed from a She Bear book tour by McKinnley where I nailed him quite sufficiently, “those women…” and more.
btw I never use my last name, then or now with the exception of when I collected over 8k signatures in that recall and had to sign off each petition page.
Glub glub glub.
You “nailed” him? I don’t know what that means.
BTW, how much were you paid to collect signatures to recall McKinley? Please share bear.
Without going into financial detail. I will say I was paid hourly, not per signature.
“Without going into financial detail.”
Didn’t tell the IRS?
Hey wait a minute. First you say it’s “100% falsified” and now you say it can be used. Careful, hon’ people might get the idea you’re lacking in the gray matter department.
Oh my, I’ve ruffled feathers and brought the old guns out. Go back and read what I originally said.
Speaking of old guns, you sure sound a lot like one of Fullerton’s old, unreconstructed boo hoos. Wrong about everything but always self-righteous,
Yes, the old guard boo hoos! Dying out fast.
You’re a funny guy. Tell you what, ask Tony who I am. Until then, stop with your silliness lol My gut hurts from all this laughter!
Who is this Tony person? A personal reference?