15 Years Later….Doc Foghorn Still Has No Clue

Yes, it’s been 15 long years of listening to this bully push people around – always people he doesn’t think will push back.

Enjoy this clip of our own Doc Cornpone as he screams at his constituents and tries to have a public speaker ejected from the City Council Chamber. His offense? He didn’t fill out a speaker card.

Did Jones even have a clue that what he did was illegal and could have ended up with another embarrassing lawsuit? Guess not.

Should we at least be thankful this asinine buffoon apologized at the end?

138 Replies to “15 Years Later….Doc Foghorn Still Has No Clue”

  1. #2- Mayor f Dick….doesnt like him some jimmy…Nice job Erin- called him out. Then after that Capt Dan escorted her out into the penalty area- for calling them out on stifling a citizens right to public comments. Lucinda knows Jimmy, O the look on her face, when mayor asked if he filled out a card… people have the right to speak- with out filling out a form. Gees and he read that copy of the constitution that he produced from his well worn blazer pocket…f- me.

  2. Duuuuuhhhh……..I can’t even think of a response to that clip! I think it’s time time for this guy to hang it up.

  3. As Jane stated above, there have been times when I have felt sorry for Mayor Jones during some of these council meetings. As of late he seems to show some sincere sympathies towards Ron Thomas for what happened to his son, although early on he made those insensitive remarks, downplaying his injuries.
    Either I’m becoming too sensitive or all of Pat McKinley’s ‘foot-in-mouth’ remarks are making Jones look like a saint.

  4. Fullerton will, if not already, be the laughingstock of members of every other city council in SoCal after they watch this clip.

  5. These guys are thugs. They hide behind a false respectable exterior and a thin veneer of neo-conservatism. Their supporters are a bunch of alcoholics with no morals or discernment. Money and their bellies is their god. The truth will stand on its own and time will heal Fullerton. We are a better and safer community for having gone through this thing as painful as it will be. I dont care how long anyone served in the military or in the choir. Kelly was murdered and they lied and tried to cover it up. Now we watch as they on video attempt to intimidate the public, and illegally attempt to restrict the right of the citizenry to petition their governemnt for a redress of grievenances and this is how they handle it? Granted there is a lack of respect but how about the MORAL OUTRAGE THAT THEIR INACTIONS HAVE CAUSED? That is the cause of the lack of respect. WE HAVEN’T MURDERED ANYONE, THEIR EMPLOYEES DID. Pretty unprecedented when the DA was FORCED to file murder charges on a LE -1st time in OC history. They rolled the dice when they chose the broom and to clam up instead of getting out in front of this thing and be brave, forthright and honest. That is NOT leadership and a disgrace to the Liberty Bell award.

    1. Truth well spoken truthseeker.
      Especially: the DA was FORCED to file murder charges on a LE -1st time in OC history.

      Tony R. was praying that FPD would be able to successfully sweep the Kelly Thomas murder under the rug. The only reason he filed charges was because Ron Thomas and us made him.

      1. The news conference that was held by Garo Mardirossian involving Kelly Thomas’ medical records, I believe, played a BIG part in putting pressure on the DA to act. But then again, the video that he has in his possession cannot be refuted!

  6. If you ever doubted that pride destroys people, Dick Jones is textbook exhibit A. He is annihilating himself up there, hoping to save what little he thinks he has left.

    It is selfish at the most basic level because Dick’s own family wanted him to step down. Only a weak man would allow those closest to him to suffer in this manner.

    The pride emanating from Jones, McKinley, and to a lesser extent Bankhead is suicidal. Plain and simple.

  7. enjoy the clip?…..I don’t know… I feel sorry for him…..I guess I enjoyed watching it…a little…is that wrong?

  8. Admin stated: it’s been 15 long years of listening to this bully push people around – always people he doesn’t think will push back.

    That is a classic example of a bully’s MO. Pick on the lower-hanging fruit; the more vulnerable, the least resistive. It’s too easy!!!

  9. Because of all the drama and theatrics that go on during these meetings, I think we should start a reality TV show called, “The Council.” Hey, it would be a hell of a lot better than what’s on TV now!

        1. I can hear the Benny Hill theme music in the background and some “would you please shut up’s” peppered in

  10. The mayor was acting appropriet considering person walks from entrance to podium bypassing everyone in line. Blue card is there for a reason to show some semblence of order like to ward off some guy that might be watching at home , doesn’t like the way the meeting is going so jumps in his car and comes barging into a civil meeting walking straight to the front, just like said speaker did. What I dislike the most about this incident was That acting officer Hues would not comply with the mayors request and escort crazy man out. What we have now seems to be overly aggressive police who are acting passivly and walking on eggshells afraid of making a bad impression on the public.The meeting was very civil for awhile. RThomas and stepmother spoke elequently and made some powerful points and yet remained civil. I would guess this is the best way to make progress in efforts for an improved city.I no rocket scientist but just my observations…

    1. Ok, Reality Is, you don’t make a convincing illiterate. You should spend some time with Special Ed so he can teach you how to post actual drivel.

    2. here is a less subtle observation, the speaker without the card remained calm and reasonable while our civic leader who wields much power over our city’s budget, police force , fire dept. and other community entities is ranting and raving over a piece of paper and must be shaken to reality(Bankhead at one point grabs his arm to force him to shut up and listen) our turbulent economic times and social unrest is further worsened by Jones irrational comments and actions.

  11. Screaming, yelling, and cursing only serves to make the speaker look BAD! Notice how Ron Thomas delivers his hard hitting messages in a civilized tone, all the while staying on topic.

  12. I have seen 2 or 3 different individuals who are always speakers at the meetings. They are well advised to tone down their fiery diatribes and deliver their messages in a more reserved, but firm tone. Their intended audience will not be receptive to a harsh, wild message of any kind .

  13. I believe my comments before F. Dick Jones starting with his HATE for Jimmy attitude came forth were calm and to the point.. Jones is a pathetic excuse for a Mayor.. He doesn’t even know what his job is. He is stuck in the middle of 2 of the finest clowns in Fullerton..

    1. I think that the great part about Jimmy is that he maintained his laid back attitude, and seemed genuinely concerned that old Dick Jones was going to give up the ghost and pop a gasket while he was attempting to dress Jimmy down.
      That made Doc look like a bigger ass and a more callous soul than I already know him to be.

    2. You did GREAT! I am so proud of you for staying the course and fighting for the justice that Kelly and all of us truly deserve.

    3. Erin, you were very calm and to the point – keep it up! Stridency tends to make people tune others out. At the time (real-time) I was watching on TV, I couldn’t hear what the issue was; once the fill-in city attorney was asked about the “blue card” and said it was indeed optional, I understood.

      I actually felt a bit sorry for him. Hope he didn’t get slammed for confirming completion of the cards is optional because that was a major public smackdown for Boss Hogg!

      I also understood *your* point about them coming into the community – obviously Ms. Flory did not! Sad that she couldn’t admit that she had used up her “public comment” time; made her look like another member of that clique.

    4. Great job, Erin! You and Jimmy showed the world why it’s so important to get those fossils off the bench! Do you know you’re being watched in Europe?

  14. There seem to be may capable communicators on this blog with superior verbal skills, however I rarely see anyone (aside from myself) get up and speak at these meetings.
    Come on man!
    I realize some of you savvy folk aren’t anywhere near Fullerton, but some are.
    So get up there and blast them with intellect and stop criticizing the inferior angry yellers.
    At least they stand up and shout.

  15. Wrong Guy :
    There seem to be may capable communicators on this blog with superior verbal skills, however I rarely see anyone (aside from myself) get up and speak at these meetings.
    Come on man!
    I realize some of you savvy folk aren’t anywhere near Fullerton, but some are.
    So get up there and blast them with intellect and stop criticizing the inferior angry yellers.
    At least they stand up and shout.

    I was planning on going, but bailed out after a long day at work, and also having to help the kids with homework etc. I swear every time I miss it it seems to get more bizarre lol.

    There is a vote next week for mayor or mayor pro-tem or something right? I’ll be there for that. McKinley better hope I don’t speak. 😉

  16. What pissed everyone off, was the fact that anti-recall rotary members were there praising the 3 blind mice. Not only this meeting, but the last one also. They showed no compassion for Kelly Thomas or his family. Yes, I yelled out choice words and my best of the night was that the geezers from the Rotary Club were over medicated, and didn’t have a clue why Kelly’s army was recalling them. I guess there just as clueless as Dick-Head & McKinley are.

    The final straw was ex council member Jan Flory talking 7 minutes beyond the 3 given. She was giving out an award to McKinley. She should be thankful, she’s not on the current council.

    1. It won’t work. I assure you that the recall will be successful, and all of the Rotary Club members that have been squeezing all of these boys teats at our expense, will have to go out and go back to making money the honest way, instead of the parasitic manner that they’ve become accustomed to.

  17. Wrong Guy :
    There seem to be may capable communicators on this blog with superior verbal skills, however I rarely see anyone (aside from myself) get up and speak at these meetings.
    Come on man!
    I realize some of you savvy folk aren’t anywhere near Fullerton, but some are.
    So get up there and blast them with intellect and stop criticizing the inferior angry yellers.
    At least they stand up and shout.

    I am not a resident of Fullerton, but I definitely want to see justice for the Thomas family as well as clean, civil, and fair, government.

  18. If anyone wants to see more chaotic clashes, come to one of the board of directors meetings in my homeowners association. And, it’s FREE! HAHAHA…

  19. Once again this post is fuging up my spelling: There seem to be may capable communicators
    many (not may)
    I will only be reading as opposed to posting until admin gets this fixed.

  20. There is a vote next week for mayor or mayor pro-tem or something right? I’ll be there for that. McKinley better hope I don’t speak.

    Hey VW,
    Is that a special ‘stand-alone’ meeting next week, aside from the regular city council meetings?

  21. Wrong Guy :

    Is that a special ‘stand-alone’ meeting next week, aside from the regular city council meetings?

    Dunno. When I find out exactly what’s up I’ll post it.

  22. *** PILOT LOCKED IN LAVATORY CAUSES UNNECESSARY TERROR SCARE ***

    A pilot who accidentally locked himself in the bathroom of his LaGuardia-bound plane caused a terror scare last night when a helpful passenger with an accent tried to come to his rescue by banging on the cockpit door.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/flight_scared_tless_NCATGVoOq9V6WgWjVwszRJ

    ******************************************************

    AAH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA !!!!

    The Department of Homeland Hysteria has scored another coup – terrorist turds are trying to take over transportation traffic! Raise the Terror Alert Color to BROWN !!!

  23. Jay Cicinelli, Fullerton Police Officer Charged in Kelly Thomas’ Death, Won’t Have His LAPD Pension Reviewed

    Ron Thomas, Kelly’s father, told the Weekly he thought the board’s decision was “ludicrous.”

    “They need to look into it. Looking into it is not an accusation,” Thomas says, adding that he’s not ready to give up yet. “I’m gonna throw it right back down their throats and say, ‘No, investigate this.'”

    http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2011/11/jay_cicinelli_fullerton_police.php

  24. I love me a good old feisty buffoon vs humble citizen yell match

    especially when doc too big for his britches is made to look like a catfish on a hook

  25. what a power hungrey fascist!!!
    I was hoping he would croak on the spot.

    Ps its sad to see the fire die at those meetings!!!
    what happend to all that passion!!!
    justice for kelly

  26. filling out a card to speak at fullerton city council meeting is an option and so is having Jones as a member of this same council, good-bye, Jone and Bankhead and McKinley. Their reign of terrorizing their constituents is over

  27. Quirk for Mayor? Oh, I hope not. She has proven herself to be a traitor to Fullerton. She should be supporting the FPD until all verdicts are in, and not diaparaging it. Oh yeah, I forget… she is a politician first.

      1. she is a joke.
        she does not stand for the people
        I WOULD HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR HER IF SHE ANNOUNCED SHE WAS FOR THE RECALL!!!

    1. Not supporting a dysfunctional gang of corrupt, incompetent thuggish police now makes us traitors huh?

      If you can’t even understand the constitution and the spirit in which it was written how are you going to serve the public?

  28. Justin Bieber… the little girl, Is going to sing for Obama at some kind of Christmas party but the people are kept away behind gates and guards armed with automatic weapons. It is time to end this crap, the elite get access and the taxpayers are locked out….. Mayor Hee Haw is emulating what he sees the upper echelons getting away with. I do not have a dog in the fight at Fullerton… but I’ll be damned if I do not have a dog in the fight beyond that. The dirty hippies crapping in the parks are amusing but they are alerting the rest of us to how much people like Hee Haw and the elected gods dislike questioning them….. people are watching, and they are not happy with what is happening. People not crapping in the planters are watching….. Obamas people supplied weapons to cartels, he needs to be held accountable for those people, he cannot blame this on Bush….. McKinnleys people beat a man to death, he needs to be held accountable….

    1. preach on…..
      those dirty hippies are gonna be the first to fill up those fancy FEMA camps.
      2012 the dawn of fascism

      1. What fema camps ? Kelly was given a massage. There was no cover up. I am gonna get my pension. Those council members are gonna stay on. We love to be lied to.

  29. The council rotation meeting is December 6, 2011; there is nothing on the city’s website tonight about a “special” meeting of any sort

  30. ” when you feel the rope around your neck begin to burn you can see the devil” …. Doc Hee Haw has seen the devil and he is into saving all Fullertonians from him. The devil of course is FFFF and you recall folks. Just lookin to make the good Dr. look bad. Those little ol ladies are all gonna vote for him. They do not attend council meetings, they do not watch council meetings on tv. They are the same folks who give lots of dollars to the Crouch’s Trinity Broadcasting Network in South Orange County so they can buy their way into heaven.
    Doc Jones “depends” on those same little ol ladies to keep him in office!

    1. …the percentage of those “little ol ladies” that you perceive as blindly backing poor persecuted F. Dick Jones, are currently running at about 4 out of 5 as willing to sign the recall petition. At the beginning of the recall campaign,I’d say they were running at about 60/40 in favor of re-calling Jones. The guy drop’s like a rock and loses a couple thousand voters every time he get’s near a microphone.
      Jones is digging his own grave and he’s using his own shovel every time he open’s up that mouth of his when he thinks he’s about to get high and mighty and drop the hammer on Jimmy or bang the gavel on Ron Thomas.

  31. to tacos for tuco:
    Tuco knows you never had a rope around your neck. Well, I’m going to tell you something. When that rope starts to pull tight, you can feel the Devil bite your ass!
    Tuco knows……. I eat Tacos on Wednesday night at El Zarape’s Restaurant!

  32. Sad state of affairs when you don’t even know how your own meeting are run and cards are optional. Power tripping and blowing a gasket makes for good fodder. Any blind person can see this guy needs to go. RECALL!!!!!

  33. Was that Erin telling the city attorney to tell the mayor filling out the card is optional?
    If so, way to go Erin. Way to stick it in him.
    Way to make him look like the short-fused power tripper that he is.

  34. The Los Angeles City Pension Board voted 5-3 against allowing a review of Cicinelli’s LAPD pension.

    The board members are elected by police and firefighters and the mayor. The LE brotherhood is everywhere.
    _______________________________________________

    Fullerton officer charged in Kelly Thomas’ death will keep LAPD pension

    An L.A. board decides not to review Jay Cicinelli’s disability award, which was approved after he lost an eye when he was shot while on duty as a rookie officer in 1996.

    “A Fullerton police officer accused in the death of a homeless man will continue to receive his nearly $40,000 annual disability pension from the city of Los Angeles after his father made an emotional appeal to a city pension board.”

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fullerton-cop-20111118,0,6586949.story

    1. I hope that the emotional appeal that the father made on his son’s behalf, was after the emotional apology that he made to Ron and Cathy Thomas for having raisied a son that killed their mentally ill son by using the butt of his gun like a hammer to pound their mentally ill son to death while 150 horrified people watched in the heart of downtown Fullerton…however, I doubt it as the apple usually doesn’t fall to far from the tree so I’m sure there is a vacancy where his conscience or soul should be.

  35. Wrong Guy :Was that Erin telling the city attorney to tell the mayor filling out the card is optional?If so, way to go Erin. Way to stick it in him.Way to make him look like the short-fused power tripper that he is.

    Yes that was Erin. You should have been there. I would have thought it was funny if this was not my town that is being turned into a huge joke by cop, cop, douche.

  36. Tuco, you need to lay off those tacos. They’re making you delusional. Your statement above: “The devil of course is FFFF and you recall folks. Just lookin to make the good Dr. look bad” proves it.

  37. One for the books :
    It is my understanding that the union is not backing these guys!

    Well I certainly could be wrong, but wouldn’t know where to even start to find out. It would be nice if I was wrong in fact.

    1. Police union backing in politics is very small money usually and it’s just the word mostly, backed by the police and the police union. I wouldn’t be surprised if Fullerton POA is quiet during these times but you never know. They could also preparing to be very active to work with the 3 recall people to get 3 people they all want into office too. You know politics.

  38. John and Ken just played this clip on air-hahaha, glad I submitted it to them-Erin is a star. good point they made, did you hear the Colonel get this worked up over Kelly Thomas? ever? evidently, paper is the red flag for this old dusty fossil

    1. Thank you chip missing. Erin and Jimmy are both good hearted people who reallyy do care about Fullerton. I’m proud to call them both my friends.

  39. Haha-Erin was just on air with john and ken decribing this hoe down-that was great, im crying-you get em erin

  40. Hope no one minds if i post a little friday humor-this here joke made me snort out loud….

    Hello, is this the Sheriff’s Office?” “Yes What can I do for you?” “I’m calling to report ’bout my neighbor Virgil Smith….He’s hidin’ marijuana inside his firewood! Don’t quite know how he gets it inside them logs , but he’s hidin’ it there.” “Thank you very much for the call, sir….” The next day, the Sheriff’s Deputies descend on Virgil’s house. They search the shed where the firewood is kept. Using axes, they bust open every piece of wood, but; find no marijuana. They sneer at Virgil and leave. Shortly, the phone rings at Virgil’s house. “Hey, Virgil! This here’s Floyd….Did the Sheriff come?” “Yeah!” “Did they chop your firewood?” “Yep!” “Happy Birthday, buddy!”

      1. Oh, boy! Here’s one a little late for Friday.

        Woman goes into to doctor’s office. “Doc, you gotta help me. I keep breaking wind whenever I’m in public. They don’t stink and they don’t make any noise, but it’s embarrassing me to death! You gotta help me!!”

        Just then she broke wind. “See, Doc? I just broke wind and it doesn’t stink or make any noise, but it’s embarrassing me to death! Help me!”

        The doc leans back in his chair and looks at her for a moment, then takes out his pad and hands her a prescription. “Take these for a week, then come back.”

        A week later the woman comes back, furious! “Doc, I came to you a week ago for this problem! I’d break wind in public and they wouldn’t stink or make any noise. Well, now they stink!!!”

        The doc smiles and says “Ok, I see we’ve gotten your sinus problem taken care of, now let’s work on your hearing!”

  41. The guy who spoke after Christine is correct in that Sacramento is much to blame for the gag order placed upon the city council in the Kelly Thomas matter. Sacramento is destroying this once great state!!

  42. fullerton lover :I hope that the emotional appeal that the father made on his son’s behalf, was after the emotional apology that he made to Ron and Cathy Thomas for having raisied a son that killed their mentally ill son by using the butt of his gun like a hammer to pound their mentally ill son to death while 150 horrified people watched in the heart of downtown Fullerton…however, I doubt it as the apple usually doesn’t fall to far from the tree so I’m sure there is a vacancy where his conscience or soul should be.

    150?? Your delusional. More like 20. And thats a big amount.

    1. How ’bout the amount of times that Kelly was bashed in the face by their son? The bus driver that witnessed the murder said that he lost count at 12 blows with the butt end of his weapon between Kelly’s eyes and had to look away although he stated that the Sissynelli was still hammering into Kelly’s face when the bus driver had to look away?

  43. Jane H :The Los Angeles City Pension Board voted 5-3 against allowing a review of Cicinelli’s LAPD pension.
    The board members are elected by police and firefighters and the mayor. The LE brotherhood is everywhere._______________________________________________
    Fullerton officer charged in Kelly Thomas’ death will keep LAPD pension
    An L.A. board decides not to review Jay Cicinelli’s disability award, which was approved after he lost an eye when he was shot while on duty as a rookie officer in 1996.
    “A Fullerton police officer accused in the death of a homeless man will continue to receive his nearly $40,000 annual disability pension from the city of Los Angeles after his father made an emotional appeal to a city pension board.”
    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fullerton-cop-20111118,0,6586949.story

    Yeay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  44. fullerton lover :I think that the great part about Jimmy is that he maintained his laid back attitude, and seemed genuinely concerned that old Dick Jones was going to give up the ghost and pop a gasket while he was attempting to dress Jimmy down.That made Doc look like a bigger ass and a more callous soul than I already know him to be.

    He just showed what a low life him and the other trailer trash were.

    1. You sound like one of the low life trolls that posts anonymously and watch the city council meetings from your parent’s basement.

    2. That “low life” has the courage to stand up and face the power structure that murdered his friend, and to voice to the moral indignation that he felt by having 6 police officers beat and taser his friend to death.
      That my friends is the kind of friend that I would want in my corner, and the reason that I consider Jimmy, and anyone else that get’s up there and speaks their minds heros and patriots of the 1st order.
      Now the syccophants and spawns of Satan that they send over from the Rotary Club and the Chamber of Commerce to the City Hall meetings to read glowing tributes to the City Council members that espouse their vanities…that’s a whole different story.

  45. chip missing :
    Haha-Erin was just on air with john and ken decribing this hoe down-that was great, im crying-you get em erin

    That was awesome! And we were texting back and forth the whole time too lol.

    Great seeing you last night Erin! 😀

  46. An incredible display of arrogance and ignorance by our Mayor. After 15 plus years, the man does not even know the rules for speaking before the council during the public comment segment.

    Even if the rules did include requring a speaker to fill out the identification card, the Mayor’s behavior was still totally indefensable!

    But the real arrogance came when he stated and I quote, ” we are allowing him to speak”. I did not know that the Mayor and his two associoates had the power to determine who can speak and who can not speak. I guess dictatorship is alive and well in the City of Fullerton thanks to Mayor Jones, Mayor Pro Tem Bankhead and Councilman Mckinley that “all around great guy especially to the women of this community”.

    And next comes another round of having Bankhead Mayor again by way of those three “gentlemen” flaunting their own rules for picking a new Mayor.

  47. fullerton lover :That “low life” has the courage to stand up and face the power structure that murdered his friend, and to voice to the moral indignation that he felt by having 6 police officers beat and taser his friend to death.That my friends is the kind of friend that I would want in my corner, and the reason that I consider Jimmy, and anyone else that get’s up there and speaks their minds heros and patriots of the 1st order.Now the syccophants and spawns of Satan that they send over from the Rotary Club and the Chamber of Commerce to the City Hall meetings to read glowing tributes to the City Council members that espouse their vanities…that’s a whole different story.

    No he is an embarrassment to Fullerton.

    1. “No he is an embarrassment to Fullerton.”

      You would know all about that sort of thing, wouldn’t you?

      The news in the FPD locker room must be pretty grim if morons like you are out in force trying to take talk up the killers’ reputations.

  48. Erin,dont forget to give John/Ken the audio you have of McSinley telling his herd of fossils that the citizens in the meetings are not smart

  49. fullerton lover :How ’bout the amount of times that Kelly was bashed in the face by their son? The bus driver that witnessed the murder said that he lost count at 12 blows with the butt end of his weapon between Kelly’s eyes and had to look away although he stated that the Sissynelli was still hammering into Kelly’s face when the bus driver had to look away?

    I didnt know bus people could count to 12.

    1. …I guess that 12 times was the threshold of what a decent person like the OCTA bus driver’s conscience could take before he had to finally look away.

      I’m sure a psychopathic sadistic-minded individual like yourself would have actually enjoy watching a lifeless corpse get beat until Sissynelli ran out of steam and delivered his final blow.
      That’s also why your part of the problem and never part of the solution.
      I’m sure that you and Pat McKinley would get along just ine though.

  50. fullerton lover :…I guess that 12 times was the threshold of what a decent person like the OCTA bus driver’s conscience could take before he had to finally look away.
    I’m sure a psychopathic sadistic-minded individual like yourself would have actually enjoy watching a lifeless corpse get beat until Sissynelli ran out of steam and delivered his final blow.That’s also why your part of the problem and never part of the solution.I’m sure that you and Pat McKinley would get along just ine though.

    The bus driver didnt see anything, get the story right….

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